ok, thanks.  Will give that a shot.

Chris.

On Mar 21, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote:

> simply hit cmd shift h to show all headers, navigate to the headers area, 
> interact with something that might stay 40 visible lines, then the first 
> field you will hear is the sender.  make sure you are on the email address 
> then hit vo shift m, and then copy to clip board. Now create your rule from 
> there with the criteria you want.  Test with 1 or 2 messages or what not to 
> be sure that it will do what you want it to do.
> 
> Godo luck.
> On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Christopher Gilland <ch...@clgproductions.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> No?  The worst that could happen is I filter the wrong thing and wind up 
>> having every piece a mail regardless go to my trash folder.  Oops?  LOL!  
>> Just kidding with ya.  Yeah, I’ll handle it, the only real other question I 
>> have is, how do I extract the sender’s e-mail address from one of his/her 
>> messages before setting up the rule?  I don’t know their e-mail address off 
>> the top of my head, and they’re not in my contacts either.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 11:44 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm not a road runner guru in the mail field or regarding the character we 
>>> all know and love, but play with the mail rules on the mac in the 
>>> directions ai sent and see if that helps. I did this before I did server 
>>> side filtering with my gmail mail accounts. the worst that can happen is 
>>> nothing.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 8:31 PM, Christopher gilland <ch...@clgproductions.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Sarah, I'm using Road Runner as my web provider.  Not sure if that helps 
>>>> you, nor anyone else.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm on the carolina.rr.com node.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marri...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:34 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Desperately need help with Mail under Mavericks
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 1. go to mail prefs.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. go to mail rules.
>>>> 
>>>> 3. click add new rule.
>>>> 
>>>> 4. Now click the criteria you want to add. Be very careful when doing this.
>>>> 
>>>> 5. click the actions you want to happen.
>>>> 
>>>> 6. click ok.
>>>> 
>>>> You can even do this on  your web provider's mail server, but I cannot 
>>>> walk you through this as every provider is different but I have several 
>>>> addresses that go to the trackh mainly as I like to call junk mail that 
>>>> goes direct to the trash, and it works well server side.
>>>> 
>>>> Feel free to test the mail rules, they are your best  friend and I've been 
>>>> using them for close to about 14 or so years.
>>>> 
>>>> Take care and be blessed.
>>>> Sarah Alawami, owner and founder of Alawami productions: where quality is 
>>>> key. Check us out on the web at http://alawamiproductions.com/listen
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 7:12 PM, Christopher Gilland 
>>>> <ch...@clgproductions.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello guys.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have waited for at least a month if not more to compose this message to 
>>>>> the list.  I have seriously given it thought, and really have thought 
>>>>> over and over time after time if I was really willing to face the most 
>>>>> likely inevitable concequences that probably would occur from this 
>>>>> message.  I think asking this question which follows regarding Mail is 
>>>>> not a matter any longer of am I willing to risk getting people angry or 
>>>>> embarrassed, but more, at this point, I feel I really don’t honestly have 
>>>>> any choice of the matter.  Maybe it’ll wake up a beast, maybe it’ll get 
>>>>> some heads turning, maybe it will get Gordon and Lynn’s attention, who 
>>>>> knows.  Come what may, and and it torpedoes at full speed ahead.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, here is the deal.  Lately, on this list, I’ve been seeing lots of 
>>>>> messages which are completely off topic.  I’m not gonna go into the 
>>>>> specifics, as, if like me, you indeed have read the list guidelines which 
>>>>> you accepted, therefore constituting your willingness to be on this list, 
>>>>> then you’ll know which messages I am referring to.  I really don’t feel I 
>>>>> should have to be specific, as it’s actually quite obvious.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m not even going to say that it’s one list member that is the offending 
>>>>> party here.  I’ll leave that neutral on my end, and allow you all to form 
>>>>> your own opinions based off of the list rules and guidelines.  This isn’t 
>>>>> rocket science.  Anyway, I’ve done exactly to a T what Gordon and Lynn 
>>>>> request that we do when we have concerns.  I’ve written them off list at 
>>>>> the support e-mail address which is provided both in the guidelines 
>>>>> message, as well as in the footer of all posted messages.  I’m not even 
>>>>> gonna provide it here, as if people truely look at these things, they’ll 
>>>>> know what I’m talking about.  Anyway, I debated heavily saying anything 
>>>>> on list about this publicly, as admittedly, it does defy the List 
>>>>> guideline netiquette.  The problem however is, neither Gordon nor Lynn 
>>>>> seem to be concerned to correct the problem.  They always write me back 
>>>>> off list and say things like, between the jobs we have we don’t have 
>>>>> time, or between this or that, or, we’re all adults, we all can manage 
>>>>> things our own ways, etc. yoddie yoddie yodda.  Just not even a week ago, 
>>>>> I wrote them regarding a few things.  I wont’ go into the specifics, but 
>>>>> there was an unnamed list member who wrote something totally off topic.  
>>>>> This person, whoever he or she may be continuously almost once or twice, 
>>>>> if not more a week seems to be posted off topic messages which probably 
>>>>> would be more suited in my opinion over on the general techno-chat list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Remember, I thought this list was for discussing Apple related things, 
>>>>> and frankly, when I come to this list, that’s what I’m hoping to find.  - 
>>>>> Not these OT messages which have absolutely not the slightest thing 
>>>>> whatsoever to do with Apple.  Anyway, getting back to this anonymous 
>>>>> person, I wrote Gordon at the support address privately, and addressed my 
>>>>> concern.  I was extremely polite about what I said.  All I did was ask 
>>>>> him if he didn’t agree that things needed to be better managed.  He then 
>>>>> through up the brick wall back at me, as usual of we just don’t have the 
>>>>> time anymore, etc.  I’ve stated to him multiple times, then you need to 
>>>>> appoint a co-moderator.  Period.  I’ve offered several times, and I’m 
>>>>> sure many of you all probably have done the same off list when your 
>>>>> support messages don’t get answered.  I mean, a little bit of a delay is 
>>>>> one thing, but almost every message I’ve sent takes at least a month, if 
>>>>> not more, to be responded to, and it’s always the same canned message 
>>>>> template.  We don’t have time, we this, we that, hit us with, a base ball 
>>>>> bat.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How does this all play into my question about Mail?  OK, intro background 
>>>>> out of the way, here’s my question.  It’s obvious that Gordon nor Lynn 
>>>>> are going to do anything to correct these rightful concerns, and God 
>>>>> knows how many other unrelated, or related for that mind, concerns are 
>>>>> being procrastinated.  I don’t like doing this, but I’m now being faced 
>>>>> with a choice.  I either can leave the list, which I’m highly 
>>>>> considerring, not because anyone’s being rude to me etc. but just because 
>>>>> responsibility isn’t being met, nor appointed to anyone who can! adhere 
>>>>> to more active activity of presence.  So, that’s one choice I have, is to 
>>>>> leave.  I don’t want to do that though, as I feel a strong need to help 
>>>>> other fellow Apple users. How else can people learn if there isn’t a 
>>>>> community of people willing to help, as I am.  The other choice of the 
>>>>> two however is, though I don’t like doing it, to set up a mail filter, 
>>>>> and block the consistently offending parties who are doing things 
>>>>> personally to me off list, as well as writing off topic or not so 
>>>>> appropriate messages on list.  It’s a hard call to make.  I don’t like 
>>>>> doing either of the two, honestly, but at this point, unless Gordon or 
>>>>> Lynn get off their sandbox and take care of the things, rather than just 
>>>>> saying they will, I’m at a catch 22, where I really feel that my hand has 
>>>>> unwillingly been forced.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, my question is, if I choose the ladder avenue, by setting of a block 
>>>>> user/users list, how do I go about adding a sender with a message in my 
>>>>> inbox to that list so that from that point foward, they’d go directly to 
>>>>> my trash folder?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, and again, two things… First of all, this message isn’t to single 
>>>>> anyone out.  For one thing, why do you think I’m leaving the parties 
>>>>> involved completely genderless/nameless.  Again, I would not have posted 
>>>>> this on list to start with normally, and believe me, this wasn’t a mail I 
>>>>> spontaniously just thought up tonight to type.  I’ve been as said 
>>>>> earlier, debating for over a few weeks’ period whether to post this or 
>>>>> not.  I don’t like posting it, don’t mistake me, but I feel caught 
>>>>> between a huge rock and a hard place.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you want to write me about this privately, my address is:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ch...@clgproductions.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> But, just know that unless it’s either Gordon, or Lynn writing, I’m going 
>>>>> to remain very hazey about the specific details, as that’s no one’s 
>>>>> direct concern except myself, them, and the actual offending parties 
>>>>> involved.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If, however you just wanna give me your comments, then go ahead.  If you 
>>>>> wanna however tell me where to fly, tear me a new one for writing this 
>>>>> the way I did, chew me out, etc. then please utilize your energy 
>>>>> elseware, as frankly, I’m not gonna listen to it.  I’m just beforehand 
>>>>> warning you that now up front.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris.
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