Hi, Wow, that does sound interesting. My 13inch 2010 MacBook running 10.9.2 is running fine, only takes about 2-3 minutes max to boot up. It's an Intel Core 2 Duo at 2.4GHZ, 4GB RAM, 320GB Hard Drive, running at 7200RPM. Regards. Lewis.
On 28/03/2014, Christopher gilland <ch...@clgproductions.com> wrote: > W'w'w'w'w'w'w'wate! a minute! Mine actually stays unchecked. I wonder if > maybe that dialog is fooling me! Maybe it is! openning things without me > knowing! Sarah, you might a just hit the nail on the head! Let me look at > > these instructions and try it, then we'll see if it helps. > > Chris. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marri...@gmail.com> > To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 2:21 PM > Subject: Re: Slow bootup? > > > Yah it does not stay checked. There is a file you need to edit . I have > instructions in this email. > > You might need to modify paths and it does refer to lion but this still is > > a issue in mavericks. > > instructions follow. > > 10.7: Completely disable Resume > This hint describes a way to completely, once and for all, disable all > Resume features (that is, 'Reopen windows when logging back in' and Saved > Application States) once and for all. > > Disable Saved Application States > > OS X Lion offers a checkbox to disable saved application states. However, > many applications do not seem to care about that checkbox (e.g. Terminal). > The easiest way to prevent applications from writing away saved states is > exactly that: don't let them write to the saved application states folder. > > To do this, first open up Terminal. Issue the following command to remove > any saved application states you might have: > > rm -r '~/Library/Saved Application State/*' > > Now, prevent anything from writing it's state away ever again: > > chmod -R a-w '~/Library/Saved Application State' > > You may use the chmod command on individual application's folders inside the > > Saved Application State folder to prevent a single application from writing > > its state away. > > Likewise, to re-enable saving states, use the same command but make the > change 'a+w' instead of 'a-w': > > chmod -R a+w '~/Library/Saved Application State' > > Disable 'Reopen windows when logging back in' > > To permanently disable 'Reopen windows when logging back in,' you can use > the following command: > > defaults write com.apple.loginwindow TALLogoutSavesState -bool false > > This will effectively disable 'Reopen windows when logging back in,' though > > the checkbox will still be ticked. However, this switch resets itself every > > time on reboot. To prevent this from happening, again we remove write > permissions on the file containing the option: > > chmod a-w ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.loginwindow.plist > > This should do it. But there's where OS X gets nasty. When it can't write to > > this file, it will try to put the write permissions back itself. The > solution is to change the owner to root, effectively preventing anyone (but > > root) from changing permissions on the file: > > sudo chown root ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.loginwindow.plist > > To reverse this, simply issue the following commands: > > sudo chown $USER ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.loginwindow.plist > chmod a+w ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.loginwindow.plist > defaults write com.apple.loginwindow TALLogoutSavesState -bool true > > [crarko adds: Definitely do this at your own risk. About the only thing most > > of us might ever care to do would be preventing some individual application > > from saving its state, as is mentioned near the end of part 1 one of the > hint. If you try this I'd suggest testing it with a dummy account first. > Note that all the permission changes are only made to files in the user > account Library.] > > > > On Mar 28, 2014, at 8:39 AM, isaac <isaac.heb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Did you try closing all windows then before restarting or shutting down >> the mac uncheck the box? >> On Mar 28, 2014, at 10:34 AM, matthew Dyer <matthew.dy...@icloud.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am using an iMac 27 inch and do not have this problem. Really the only >>> >>> miner problem I have is that the check box for reopening windows at >>> startup does not stay unchecked. Other than that my mac boots up just >>> fine. >>> >>> Matthew >>> >>> >>> On Mar 27, 2014, at 10:38 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> do you have any other macs you could try this on? All of us have mac >>>> book pros I think who are having this and mac mac minnies. Those of us >>>> who have mac regular mac books who are running mavericks do you guys >>>> have this problem as well? >>>> On Mar 27, 2014, at 7:08 PM, Christopher gilland >>>> <ch...@clgproductions.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Uh... I think I've said about 3 or 4, no wait, maybe 5? times? that I >>>>> was doing this not only on a macbook, but also have the issue on my mac >>>>> >>>>> mini. No hard feelings, this isn't meant to be rude, so please don't >>>>> take it that way, but with all due respect, I really wish people who >>>>> respond to messages would read the entire message before just hitting >>>>> the reply button after maybe reading 2 or 3 sentences, as I've been >>>>> seeing a lot of this lately with posts I send, and had you read and >>>>> been paying attention, you would a seen me confirm this several times. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, it's all good, don't worry about it. No hard feelings. >>>>> Shruggs. >>>>> >>>>> Chris. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Devin Prater" <d.pra...@me.com> >>>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 5:03 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Slow bootup? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Goodness, that isn't good at all. Maybe wait for another update? Has >>>>>> anyone tried it on a Mac mini? >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPod >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 13:20, Josh Gregory <joshkar...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What in the... Are you serious? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 2:18 PM, "Christopher gilland" >>>>>>>> <ch...@clgproductions.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I did, and they have no clue. they clame my boot time really isn't >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> that bad. Come on! timed: 8 and a half minutes? I don't freaking >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> think so! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chris. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" >>>>>>>> <marri...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net> >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 2:11 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Slow bootup? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Actually I meant that for the original poster, halsworth. Yeah >>>>>>>>> there are 2 chris's on this post. lol! Looks like it might be >>>>>>>>> time to call apple care on this one. good luck. >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Christopher gilland >>>>>>>>>> <ch...@clgproductions.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, I did. I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear, although I >>>>>>>>>> thought I had. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chris. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" >>>>>>>>>> <marri...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" >>>>>>>>>> <mac-access@mac-access.net> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 1:20 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Slow bootup? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried a full reinstall of mavericks/ I did and although >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> slow, I do see a slight speed increase. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Take care. >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 12:45 AM, christopher hallsworth >>>>>>>>>>>> <christopher...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all >>>>>>>>>>>> my Macbook Pro 2012 model running Os X 10.9.2 is slow booting >>>>>>>>>>>> up. Once booted all is well. I'm thinking of doing a clean >>>>>>>>>>>> install as never done one since owning this mac nearly two years >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ago. So should I go ahead and do this? My processor is Core I5 >>>>>>>>>>>> and memory is 4 GB. Any responses greatly appreciated. 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