I believe it is mute speech but I will check on my Mac tomorrow. David Griffith
-----Original Message----- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Judy Pryor Sent: 15 April 2014 17:18 To: OS X & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: still having problems turning on speech on the mac David should it be mute speech toggle or mute voice over toggle? Judy On 13 Mar 2014, at 22:28, David Griffith <d.griff...@btinternet.com> wrote: > VO F8 for Voiceover Utility > Navigate to the Utility Table. > Interact > Cursor down to commanders. > Un-interact. > Vo Cursor across to keyboard commander tab and press Vo space to select it. > > Now you can find a table to define shortcut keys for voiceover functions . > > > David Griffith > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of melissa tucker > Sent: 13 March 2014 15:49 > To: OS X & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: still having problems turning on speech on the mac > > I got someone to help me get speech back on. now, I want to go into utility > manager for the keyboard functions you were telling me about so I can set a > command up to turn speech on and off so I won't have this problem again. > How do I get to utilities and the keyboard to do this? thanks. > >> On Mar 12, 2014, at 11:25 PM, "David Griffith" <d.griff...@btinternet.com> > wrote: >> >> It sounds like you may not have Track Pad commander turned on. >> The first thing to try then is to ensure that you have Track pad commander >> turned on. >> To do this you need to hold the vo keys down and make a rota gesture on > the >> track pad. That is move your finger and thumb as if you were turning a > dial >> in a clockwise direction whilst holding control and option. >> >> Now try doing a three finger double tap again. >> Hopefully this will restore speech. >> You may have to try and do this a few times until you get the double tap >> rhythm right. >> >> As soon you have regained speech I recommend you go straight to Voiceover >> Utility and then interact with the Utility table and then go down to >> commanders. Uninteract with the table and navigate to the keyboard >> commander tab. >> Here you can set up a shortcut key to toggle Voiceover speech on and off. >> >> You select a key, in my case I used A and then hit the command button. > You >> then have to cursor through the categories of commands to find the command >> to toggle Voiceover speech on and off. It is important that you be clear >> about what you are trying to achieve and what you are not trying to > achieve >> here as there are similar sounding options. >> 1. You are not trying to mute and unmute sound on the computer. This is >> often confused with muting speech. I noticed some incorrect advice about >> using function keys for this earlier in the thread which will not help you >> in this situation. >> 2. You are not trying to turn Voiceover on or off. >> 3. You are however trying to mute and unmute speech. You want to look for >> the mute and unmute speech toggle, definitely not mute and unmute sound. >> >> I can go and look for this myself in the command list tomorrow if you > cannot >> find it but you should be able to find it if you work through the >> categories systematically. Setting this key up does make life a lot easier >> for those occasions when the pesky track pad causes these types of > problems. >> If this ever happens to me now I just press right option A on my keyboard >> and Voiceover speech comes straight back. >> >> David Griffith >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net >> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of melissa tucker >> Sent: 13 March 2014 02:42 >> To: & iOS Accessibility OS X >> Subject: still having problems turning on speech on the mac >> >> Even with earlier suggestions, I still can't get speech to turn on. When >> using command f5, I get the voice over prompt, the immediately after that, >> it says speech off. I think I've messed up the functions on my track pad, >> because when doing the three finger double tap, the mac just makes a noise >> and no speech. 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