Hello. I'd like to thank those of you on the list who gave advice regarding upgrading. While I agree the more the better regarding reporting bugs, I'm not a fan of aggravation trying to downgrade because you can't stand the new bugs you got with the upgrade.

Speaking of bugs, did iOS8.0.2 fix the Bluetooth bug and the sticky dialpad key issue(s)? If so, I will upgrade, as I do make calls using the keypad, and use the Bluetooth keyboard a lot.

Matthew Chao

At 09:48 AM 9/27/2014, you wrote:
I could not agree more. People that just sit back are not helping us at all. Perhaps if we all updated and showed our interest in getting things fixed it would all happen a lot quicker and the likes of Appple may concentrate a little more on the voice over side of some great software. Everyone to their own I guess.



-----Original Message----- From: Shaun Oliver
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 6:06
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

I may be seen as confrontational with this response, but, I'mnot concerned
with that.

What concerns me, however, is the arrogants displayed by people who believe
they know better than they who've coded the operating system we're
discussing.

Regardless of accessibility bugs, which aren't insurmountable, I might add,
Each new IOS update includes security fixes to plug holes that were found in
the last revision and were picked up too late to be included in the cycle.
Irrespective of these bugs, a good number of which, have been addressed, to
a certain extent, to suggest that people not upgrade so as to maintain
useability, in my opinion is arrogant and gauche and utter folly. To suggest
you have no issues with security in a previous revision of IOS is again
folly.

It only takes one misplaced tap to introduce malware to the system or open
up a back door to be exploited by someone with little else to do than annoy
the rest of us.

If you want total security, you won't buy a smart phone. If you want
moderate security, you won't connect it to the internet. If you want
relative security, you'll stay on top of updates.



-----Original Message-----
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Timothy J. Meloy
Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:16
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

I have not experienced some of the voice over bugs that have been widely
talked about. The pros outweigh the cons for upgrading.
TJ


On Sep 27, 2014, at 1:30 AM, Diane Bomar <bomon...@earthlink.net> wrote:

Unless there is something in IOS 8, that you absolutely must have, I would
encourage you to wait. After using IOS 8 for a week, on my new iPhone, I
definitely will not be updating this iPad mini, till some bugs are fixed.



Sent from my iPad

On Sep 26, 2014, at 11:07 PM, Glenn <glenner...@cableone.net> wrote:

I don't think we need to worry about security in version 7.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Oliver" <blindma...@gmail.com>
To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:57 PM
Subject: RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?


It's always a good idea to upgrade, even if the bugs haven't all been
ironed out, you'll find that there's always security fixes which are
reason enough to upgrade.


-----Original Message-----
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k
Alawami
Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:25
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

Actually I heard some of the accessibility bugs have been fixed and
some work arounds as well. I myself will wait especially now that
apple stopped code signing ios7 so down grading really is not a
possibility anymore if you find somethign brakes.

At the same time how ever  the more of us that report bugs the more
apple might consider a fix for us.
On Sep 26, 2014, at 8:00 PM, Anna <asengi...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

From the update info list given during update there were no
accessibilty
bug fixes listed, mainly cellular connectivity fixes.

I would wait.

Anna

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 26, 2014, at 10:30 PM, Matthew Chao <mattc...@verizon.net> wrote:

Hi, Folks.  I have an iPhone 5 running the latest version of iOS7.
I've
heard that 8.0.0 had problems regarding the Bluetooth keyboards
working with VoiceOver.  Has this been fixed in iOS8.0.2?  Also, what
about the sticking phone touch tone key?  Thanks in advance for info.

Matthew Chao

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