Problem with that is exactly that. Anyone can sign up to be a beta tester. They want the latest and greatest toys and don't want to report the bugs so we can have a smooth transition.
I'd sign up to be a beta tester, but, I don't want to spend my days compiling bug reports, so I wait for the final release. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Glenn Sent: Sunday, 28 September 2014 10:15 To: OS X & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? It's not like anyone is not going to upgrade. Pretty much everyone will in time. Historically, there are bugs in software, and if less people were to upgrade right away, the software people would spend more time making sure that there are no bugs. We do not need to be unwilling beta testers. That is why there are beta testers, to make sure that the bugs are all worked out. Anyone can sign up to be a tester, and if you want the bleeding edge, go right ahead. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Oliver" <blindma...@gmail.com> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" <mac-access@mac-access.net> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 7:07 PM Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? I'm not suggesting for a minute you go in guns blazing. Read the documentation, read the various bug reports and anything else you can lay your hands on, but, don't dismiss upgrading out of hand, just because. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane Bomar Sent: Sunday, 28 September 2014 09:07 To: OS X & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? You make a good poing. Misery loves company, and maybe if enough people call the accessibility line, when VO stops talking, Apple will fix the bugs that cause those problems. But, one should make an informed choice by knowing the risks. Diane Sent from my iPad On Sep 27, 2014, at 7:48 AM, "Graham Smith" <g.smith...@rogers.com> wrote: I could not agree more. People that just sit back are not helping us at all. Perhaps if we all updated and showed our interest in getting things fixed it would all happen a lot quicker and the likes of Appple may concentrate a little more on the voice over side of some great software. Everyone to their own I guess. -----Original Message----- From: Shaun Oliver Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 6:06 To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility' Subject: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? I may be seen as confrontational with this response, but, I'mnot concerned with that. What concerns me, however, is the arrogants displayed by people who believe they know better than they who've coded the operating system we're discussing. Regardless of accessibility bugs, which aren't insurmountable, I might add, Each new IOS update includes security fixes to plug holes that were found in the last revision and were picked up too late to be included in the cycle. Irrespective of these bugs, a good number of which, have been addressed, to a certain extent, to suggest that people not upgrade so as to maintain useability, in my opinion is arrogant and gauche and utter folly. To suggest you have no issues with security in a previous revision of IOS is again folly. It only takes one misplaced tap to introduce malware to the system or open up a back door to be exploited by someone with little else to do than annoy the rest of us. If you want total security, you won't buy a smart phone. If you want moderate security, you won't connect it to the internet. 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