And what about the Bluetooth keyboard/QuickNav bug?  Has that been resolved?

Matthew Chao

At 08:05 PM 9/27/2014, you wrote:
One of those bugs with siri is easily overcome by single tapping the listen
button just above the home key. Sometimes, siri and voiceover get in the way
of each other. I admit, it's annoying, but, again, nothing you can't get out
of. I'm unaware of the bug that requires you to reset your phone.l how can I
reproduce this one?


-----Original Message-----
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane Bomar
Sent: Sunday, 28 September 2014 09:02
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

If one considers the possibility of being on the line with Apple
Accessibility for 3 hours a  pro, then go for it. I, personally, spent last
Saturday, and this Saturday, dealing with resetting and restoring my iPhone
multiple times, due to glitches that Accessibility tech support did not know
about. In both cases, VO completely died, but Seri still said it was on;
there simply was no speech. It was not due to speech being turned off (three
finger double tap). One bug causing this issue has been identified, but
another ghas not. If you are willing totake the chance of VO failing, and
having to revive it only by a total reset involving the computer, go for it!
It certainly is a great learning experience, but keep the Xanax handy. It is
not about those who have not experienced the issues that can warn of the
dangers and possible consequences.

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 27, 2014, at 2:35 AM, eleanor martha burke
<eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com> wrote:

in what way?

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 27 Sep 2014, at 07:46, Timothy J. Meloy <tme...@fuse.net> wrote:
>
> I have not experienced some of the voice over bugs that have been widely
talked about. The pros outweigh the cons for upgrading.
> TJ
>
>
>> On Sep 27, 2014, at 1:30 AM, Diane Bomar <bomon...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> Unless there is something in IOS 8, that you absolutely must have, I
would encourage you to wait. After using IOS 8 for a week, on my new iPhone,
I definitely will not be updating this iPad mini, till some bugs are fixed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 11:07 PM, Glenn <glenner...@cableone.net> wrote:
>>
>> I don't think we need to worry about security in version 7.
>> Glenn
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Shaun Oliver" <blindma...@gmail.com>
>> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:57 PM
>> Subject: RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?
>>
>>
>> It's always a good idea to upgrade, even if the bugs haven't all been
>> ironed out, you'll find that there's always security fixes which are
>> reason enough to upgrade.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k
>> Alawami
>> Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:25
>> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?
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