On Fri, 2004-11-05 at 12:02, RP McKay wrote:
> > I think that's an unfair comment. There are a lot of things we don't
> > know about this procurement,

But the laws of libel stop me from mentioning them :^P

> -the cost of support staff (IT) and software (can you say show me the
> money!) from Redmond alone would scare me away from the current path and

Just wait `til they run the life-support machines on
MS Windows :-(

> surely the costs for a new system from scratch would be cheaper over the
> long run. (not to mention the legal costs involved IF/WHEN someone can prove
> their data is not secure and available to third parties, such as insurance
> companies!) and lets not forget that all of us as tax payers are footing
> these costs. 

Absolutely - though it needn't be as dramatic as starting
from scratch, a transition can be planned and implemented 
over a number of years.

> Every time I turn around another agency or government body in
> the US or mainland EU are switching to other OS's due to costs...to be fair
> it is mostly Linux 

And the reasons for switching to GNU/Linux are all side-effects of 
its licensing as Free Software:
Specifically 
1. Cost savings from not being tied to one (expensive, monopoly) vendor
2. Security (not security through obscurity) - no waiting for
   long-delayed patches.
3. Environmental - hardware can be kept longer.
4. Ease of use - Free Software can be configured by the admins to
   work just the way it is needed.
5. Local economy - local programmers can be employed to develop the 
   software - helping the balance of payments.

Most of MacOS-X is not freely licensed, so the benefits of such a
switch (in this context) would be purely technical.

Rather than asking where were Apple in this, one might ask where
were Sun/ IBM/ Novell/ HPaq.

Apple seem to have very little interest in UK government
contract, witness how schools switched from Acorn to MS :-(

> -No software is perfect, so there are surely still features that are not
> implemented in the legacy software that will now never be made/implemented
> because of the software upgrade choice they have made, whereas if they went
> with a new start they could ask the all important question of what do you
> need / want instead of here is what you get (can you still use it?).

An interesting case study is a large hospital in Dublin
which started switching to Free Software recently, including
writing some of their own software which is now being taken
up by other hospitals...
http://www.netproject.com/docs/Beaumont.pdf

However the UK government differs from every other
major European government in its reluctance to break
the proprietary software habit:
http://www.publicservice.co.uk/pdf/cg/8/CG8%201704%20R%20Smedley%20ATL%20Amen.pdf

Still, there are signs of change - but it may be
years before we see noticable results.


Apologies for straying a little off-topic for the list :-/

 - Richard

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