Replying to myself... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy
and also: Linux and GNU/Linux Because the GNU libraries and programs, an essential part of nearly all Linux distributions, stem from a long-standing free operating system project that predates the Linux kernel, Richard Stallman and the Free Software Foundation ask that the combined system (regardless of distribution) be referred to as GNU/Linux or a Linux-based GNU system. Torvalds, the creator of the Linux kernel, has said that he finds calling Linux in general GNU/Linux "just ridiculous." Still, some distributions do use this name - notably Debian GNU/Linux - while most people simply refer to the system as Linux. The distinction between Torvalds' kernel and entire Linux-based systems that contain the kernel is a perennial source of confusion, and the naming remains controversial. There you go.. M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Emson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mac UK" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 10:48 AM Subject: Re: GNU/Linux on a Mac [was Re: Newbie G3 Question(s)] > Which facts are wrong? Richard Stalman is head of the FSF. > > Linux Torvalds is the original aithor of the LINUX kernel. LINUX the OS was > called LINUX until the FSF/RMS/a third party voiced the opinion it should be > called GNU/LINUX. > > Linus used Minix to bootstrap LINIX, which happened to use GNU tools. As it > was simpler to then continue to use GNU tools, they carried on. > > The name GNU/LINUX is straight out of the FSF and their supporters mouths. > RMS is the voice behind the FSF. Linus is probably the largest "slacker"* in > the universe and really didn't care what they called his OS. Read his > autobiography if you don't believe me... where all the FSF and GNU/LINUX > stuff is well documented from the horses mouth. > > GNU/HURD is the FSF's official OS. > > GCC is a GNU product: Apple use GCC to build MacOS X. > > The only non fact I can see is my opinion (sorry, should have stated it was > my opinion) that FSF/RMS insisting that it was called GNU/LINUX is big a > publicity boosting exercise for FSF. > > Finally, LINUX has *never* been refered to as "GNU" alone. > > Please feel free to inform me if any of the above is fiction... > > M > > * meant in an affectionate way. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zoki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mac UK" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 10:16 AM > Subject: Re: GNU/Linux on a Mac [was Re: Newbie G3 Question(s)] > > > *** Matt, > > With all due respect but you are rewriting history here. You did not > only get your facts wrong you also lacking respect to a person - even > if you do not like his methods - that has done a lot for the free > sofwatere movement. > > Please spend some more time on Internet to inform yourself, and avoid > the Fox News approach. You are not doing yourself a favor. > > -- > Cheers, > Zoran. > > "We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things got worse." > > Le 19 déc. 2005, à 10:53, Matt Emson a écrit : > > >> Why not put MacOS on the new hard disk you mentioned, and GNU > >> on the old one, and see how it compares to MacOS-X even under > >> the handicap of running from a slower disk. > > > > Hate to get technical, but you are wrong to refer to LINUX as just > > GNU. When > > Linus Torvalds originally created LINUX, it was simply that - LINUX. > > The GNU > > part is almost entirely one man's folly. > > > > Richard Stallman may want people to use his forced GNU when refering to > > LINUX, but at a push it is GNU/LINUX. Almost the entire world actually > > refers to it as LINUX. RMS argued that LINUX is a kernel on top of > > which GNU > > tools run - this is why he attempted to force the name as GNU/LINUX. > > The GNU > > part only exists in his and other GNU zealots minds though. Plenty of > > other > > OS uses GNU software - even MacOS X does - as GCC is entirely GNU. Some > > hobby OS like Syllable use almost as much GNU software as LINUX does, > > but I > > don't see RMS forcing them to call it NGU/Syllable. 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