Hi,
if it helps, I could at least test kooperation with a CANON LIDE90
(Which seem to get activated by OOo, but cannot be used, it is not
shown for selection)
(The Scanner is connected to my PPC Mac MINI. this might as well be
an ppc issue)
Gruß
Loria
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:56:38AM +0200, eric.bachard wrote:
> Hi Valentin,
>
> Sorry for my strange answer, not in the initiail thread, but for some
> reason, I didn't receive your mails in my [EMAIL PROTECTED] folder.
>
>
> Valentin JANIAUT a écrit :
> >Hello,
> >
> >I'm currently working about improve the scanner use for ooo mac porting.
> >After few hard time to compile and have a look about previous solution I
> >have some question about scanner implementation in ooo and the best way to
> >realize my project.
>
> Would be great :-)
>
>
> I appreciate you finally posted on the list, asking for help. The bad
> news is : Philipp Lohmann, who implemented the scanner for all
> platforms, is on holidays, and will be back in september only.
>
> So we'll have to find another solution than ask Philipp :-/
>
>
> >** How works scanner in ooo **
> >
> >To resume shortly, there is a generic class : ScannerManager define in
> >scanner.hxx (extensions/source/scanner). There is different kind of method
> >:
> >Xinterface wich probably define the interface (if I understand well).
>
> Exact. There is an UNO service used. For further information about the
> interface, you can look in the interface definition in
> offapi/com/sun/star + the interface name + the filename you can read in
> the "#include ... " list.
>
> The documents Serge Moutou translated recently in french (the one I
> pointed you), will explain you better.
>
> >
> >XscannerManager, all this method will be define for each OS (for windows
> >you can find the definition in scanwin.cxx)
>
> Indeed.
>
> >Xbitmap which manage the bitmap object you get after the acquisition.
> >Again this method are define for each OS.
> >
> >And some misc method which are define in scanner.cxx
>
> Yes.
>
> >Finally we have a XScannerManager to use a scanner with the normal method
> >for an Xobject : queryInterface, acquire and release.
>
> Yes, and I thik this is the one way to proceed. The problem we have
> here, is we use Image Capture API, and before to do anything, we havez
> to know what we can expect from Image Capture.
>
>
> >** A first solution to use scanner with MacOs **
> >
> >My first idea was to use the same way than scanwin. But we should use a
> >controller and a view write in Objective-C wich are using Cocoa. So we
> >need two file ScanMacController and ScanMacView (with the .h and .mm
> >corresponding). For the Controller we have already a good start with the
> >Cocoa example.
>
> Agreed. But we have to do a lot of modifications. e.g. all the
> awakeFromNib, IBAction, have to be transformed in void, and adapted (in
> the init mainly, but not only). Maybe we'll have to create our own
> NSDictionnary, and I think IBOutlet have to be either removed (if
> useless) or adapted too for own needs. Last, we'll probably have to
> implement other methods.
>
> + we would have to bind all objC methods, using the UNO thing.
>
> What I did with the Apple Remote is not that far, but I think we must
> have a different approach here. More precisely, what I don't see in your
> page is the analysis of the existing ?
>
> e.g. :
>
> - describe the current behaviour on e.g. Linux ? (using SANE) or even
> Windows, both using OpenOffice.org
> - can a scanner be detected by OpenOffice.org in runtime, or must the
> scanner be on *before* OpenOffice.org starts ? (this is very important)
> - have a list of OpenOffice.org applications where the scanner is usable
> (e.g. : only Writer and Draw, and so on )
> - how works the Image Capture blob with a scanner on Mac OS X ? (will
> provide the information: what can we expect ? )
> - what API can we use ? ( describe some functions, what we cannot do .. etc)
>
> IMHO, we cannot do anything before everything above is clear in our
> mind. A very good example of feature description, is the Presenter
> Screen feature (I'd suggest you to have a look at the nice code btw).
>
> The URL : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Presenter_Screen
>
> >After we just need to write a scanmacos file with the definition of
> >ScannerManager (XScannerManager and Xbitmap). With the small problem to
> >convert a NSBitmap object in a Xbitmap.
>
> If I'm not too wrong, I think Herbert, of Florian Heckl might help you
> there. Florian has a great knowledge for UNO + objectiveC association.
>
> >I tried a little bit this solution, but at this time I have some
> >difficult to compile the ScanMacController with dmake. My objective-C
> >method doesn't compile because : "ld:Undefined symbols".
>
> Please, send me your code ...
>
>
> >** Anoter solution **
> >
> >My second idea is to write a component in Objective-C. It looks more easy.
> >I would like write XScannerManager in a componant.
> >So it need only to write the method from ScannerManager. But can we
> >overwrite an existing interface with a componant ?
> >
> >I imagine we can probably define during the compilation to use the
> >component instead of the normal Interface for macos.
>
> I don't get what you mean here. If I'm not confused, the component is
> loaded at runtime, not at buildtime.
>
>
> >At this time I try to make the example with the counter
> >(http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Constructing_Components) in
> >Objective-C instead of C++.
> >
> >Do you think it's a better way than before ?
>
> No idea, but I'd suggest to start answering the questions above, before
> doing anything else.
> To be honest, I'm not that familiar with "components", but one told me
> this is a working solution.
>
> And if you have code, please send it to me + a short description of the
> build environment.
>
> >** To conclude **
> >
> >It's stille quite dark in my mind.
>
> What I'd suggest you is to maintain a page, where you notice everything
> you do ( tests, code , everything). Did you ?
>
> >It's defenitly hard to involve in the OpenOffice.org API.
>
> This is not easy, indeed, but I think what is mainly missing, is the
> first step, with some pedagogical inside.
>
>
> >So I probably some big stupid things previously, but if you can give me
> >some hints, or give some good link to help you're welcome !
>
> There is no stupid question, and instead of laugh doing nothing, I
> prefer from far read your questions, and try to help you.
>
>
> >I'm writting a page on my wiki about this two way :
> >http://wiki.valeuf.org/WayToSolveScannerUse
> >Thanks for your reading.
>
>
> You're welcome :)
>
> Eric
>
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