Hi, In response to what I wrote
>> So, When you start talking about wanting to copy copyrighted DVD >> movies on your computer? This is not a simple question for any >> Developer to answer--especially since you are asking questions that >> are essentially are about "how to break the law". Copying DVD media, >> is not a "right" and Henri's response: > > Not true. Copying media is your right, upheld by the supreme court etc > etc doodah doodah. > > However, the creators of the media have the right to make copying as > painful as possible, and the DMCA says you are not allowed to get > around > things they have put in place. > > This basically creats a loophole: You have the right to copy. They have > the right to stop you. You don't have the right to counter their stop. Henri, You are very very wrong. I pay my GDM, IT attorneys $250 an hour to keep me in the legal clear on copyrights and licenses, and to also write my copyright contracts for my projects with the studios. Are you saying, what they taught me is wrong for the past decade is wrong, and that you know more than they do Hacking passkeys, and copying DVD content or any media disk for that matter, is not a sovereign "right", ethically or legally by ANY court of law here or anywhere. Copying DVDs, is considered reverse engineering and that it is considered stealing Intellectual Property. Plus, With DVDs the media itself is considered a canvas, not just a media material, since the disk is painted with art, graphics, trademarks, etc. This means the DVD plastics, the disk is an intrinsic part of the work itself- like the oil paint applied to a canvas painting. And with DVDs every disk is in essence be considered a "Master Disk" or "Original". Ouch. So, Copying a DVD and distributing it to another- meaning, in real life: like giving one copy to a friend, or worse, posting it online for sharing to lots of people, IS considered "Distribution". That means=Stealing not just once, but twice. Doing either of these things, is a severe criminal act, is rated a felony- a criminal equivalent to stealing a car. Minumum jail time for felony? Is one year or more.... And , Just so you know, financially, I do know, the least damage for artist infringement for a CD hack theft, will be at least 50 grand + plus court costs. I am sure DVDs is 5 times of that, since the volume of property is multiple of what CDs are. Then on top of that, you also will get stuck paying the bill for the artists attorneys bringing your ass to court. On top comes the artists' reputation damages, which can be unlimited, since a jury determine that amounts. Once you are proven as an infringer? (which is not hard to prove, since copying leaves a code trail) You will pay it all. So Henri, If you can afford to risk your reputation, and have all this money to pay all these damages, and get the ink stain of a class A felony onto your LIFE record- a permanent mark on your life record that can never be erased, a record that can follow you where-ever you go in the world? When you apply for a job, apply for a home or car loan, go to school, travel, get a parking ticket, heeeey. "Mr Policeman, why you stopping me???" As they say, once a felon, always a felon. Does this Sound like FUN to exercise your so called rights, in this way? Is it worth it, to hack open and copy a stupid DVD, really WORTH the cost, this kind of risk to your life, or to encourage others to follow suit? If so, Go ahead! Buy your DVD hack recorder, Henri! And then, hey after that? Be an even bigger fool and let everyone know about it on a public mailing list. even better, get your friends and family involved in it all--they will thank you later! After all--as you say? It is one's free "right" to be a stupid fool, copy a company's artistic product, brag about it, bring everyone you know into the fold, yep, do something THAT dumb in America, is a free right isn't it? Yes, Those stupid Americans! How could anyone, ever consider copying those DVDs, and CDs as stealing someone else's work--as wrong! That is just sharing the love, isn't it!??? Yes, think of it. That is my RIGHT to share anything I touch, with whoever I want to give this stuff to. Thinking like you are? This is so ethically and spiritually- wrong. Remember the lady that asked this question, about copying DVDs in the first place? Cathy? Rather than tell her to buy some hack machine online from some offshore crook, maybe she should be advised to just buy a used DVD disk for $10 at the corner video store, where-ever she travels. That's what I do, and I am able to sleep at night, knowing I have supported a few of my fellow artists in the entertainment industry. That feels nice. Of course, that is MY choice to abide by the law, wherever I go, of course. You can do what you what-ever you do... Henri. But you should be very VERY careful about what you advise others to do.... especially when it involves breaking the law. Aiding and Abeting, who more criminality, more fun, Ya know? Oooooo boy! You sure can be shocking, Henri in the things you wrote. Was that your true intent. To shock? How fortunate it must be to move and live in a new country and do whatever you want and to make up your own laws.... I spent 6 months in England and when I was there? I was always aware I was a guest of another's country. I watched what I said and did there. To feel, it is OK for you to take whatever you want, from whomever you want? And then afterwards to brag about doing so, to all us, stupid American fools that were born here? And making double sure we are told and really really aware of about how wrong we Americans are about our ethics, values, and laws... Wow. 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