Hey folks, I have responded directly to Kay and wish to apologize to the group for unknowingly inciting a riot. :)
Ward Ward Oldham, MacDude MacTown 1041 Bardstown Road Louisville, KY 40204 502-485-1243 ward at mactown.us http://www.mactown.us From: KR'sListMail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: <macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 18:36:43 -0400 To: <macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> Subject: MacGroup: Re: Copying Ward, In response to your post, you wrote > From: Ward Oldham <woldham at insightbb.com> > Subject: Re: MacGroup: Re: Copying > > But to slap someone down, bloody their nose and tell them they're > uninformed > and totally ignorant is uncalled for! > You say I don't have the right to protest someone stealing my or my clients work? Just, WHO is sticking whose nose in it? When someone makes jokes about stealing entertainment artists' works, your clients works, and even goes so far to describe methods and ways to steal one's own work? I am supposed to sit silently by and smile like a fool? His post made me FURIOUS. I couldn't believe he had to the gaul, the nerve to argue with me about my artwork and my creative property rights here like he did. As Henri knows, I am an Entertainment Artist and Architectural Designer. Along the past twenty years, I have worked for Warner, Disney, Universal, HBO, Paramount, Universal, Ripley, Blockbuster, Virgin, and a handful of other entertainment companies. I have sold or copyrighted my work to my clients. My work appears on studio CDs, Films, DVDs etc. I make my LIVING selling conceptual ideas for media projects Theme parks, Stores, CDs, and DVDs. We aren't talking about a far away planet here, with people he doesn't know. We are talking about MY life's work, and MY Clients who have bought and paid for my work. And so, here is Henri, telling people on this list, about ways to copy and steal some of my DVD works!!! Right in front of me??? What nerve! Ward, If someone stepped in your store, smashed out the windows, and stole YOUR goods, and threatened your industry 24 hours a day, with threats of theft? How would you feel about that? And then if the guy, strutted around and talked about doing these things to your Clients, and taking your goods, and using them and doing so, RIGHT in front of your face??? And then went on and even explained to others here, ways that they could break into your store, next week and steal again and again. And then argued with you how all of this is is OK, and how stealing your work is "their Right"??? And to go on and on, how it is COOL and FUNNY stealing your work is? So given this truth, WHO Is pushing WHOSE buttons here? I would like to see how YOU would react, Ward, if someone made jokes about stealing from your friends, clients and vendors work like that, right in front of you! I don't find his comments funny, at all- nor his guidance good or right to the people on this list. And don't feel a bit sorry for speaking my mind about his bad behaviour and words, in due concern. I only wish I had spoken up sooner, and expressed that I felt What he is doing is WRONG, and I DON'T LIKE IT. So here is my final word on this subject: It is not Henri's RIGHT to reproduce MY copyrighted works or the content on my studio clients DVDs. Not now, not ever. Period. And if he does do so? I DON'T want to know about it, not here, not anywhere. Otherwise, I will be obligated to report it. Understand? I am filled with pity after listening to some of you people. How insensitive you are, how full of self-rightiousness to do whatever you want. Such bad karma... Obviously, after reading the latest posts, I do see how some of you feel it is very ok to steal a creative person's work and use it however you wish, without asking for the owners permission, or paying for the right. I DO not agree--and obviously we will not ever agree on that issue. So, I don't want to argue with you anymore about who my art work belongs to. I Know who it belongs to, and I don't feel any need to prove it here. As far as I am concerned, this is the End of this UGLY Discussion. Good riddance! Yours, Kay | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be July 27. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>. | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20040804/10a44b71/attachment.html
