"Bill Holt" <billholt at iglou.com>
> The current plan: (1) Obtain and install...another scsi HD...into the floppy
drive bay...

I just don't know. If my SCSI drive won't work externally, why would yours
work internally? But, if Jerry has SCSI working on a beige G3 under OSX,
then maybe you can do it, too.

If you are going to get new internal drive, it might be safer to get an
IDE/ATA type to replace your present drive - it worked for me.

> 2)  Then, I'll install Jag on the new scsi drive and let it use the latest
> version 9.x on the same drive.

So you want to have the Installer install OS9.2.2 on the new SCSI drive for
Classic, and you will use your old 9.1 on your old drive for native?  I
understand you need to do that because of ClarisCad, but that is not so
good, because when you start up Classic using the bare 9.2.2, none of your
old applications will work, because all their extensions are in 9.1. So what
good is the 9.2.2? I would just tell the Installer to use your old 9.1 for
Classic (Jerry said it would work).
 
> 3)  Then operationally, using whatever the equivalent to the Startup control
> panel is on OSX, I'll be able to designate one of the other drives as the
> startup when it's necessary to use an earlier system.

Yes, any startup control panel that you can get to, will allow you to
designate any OS on any drive for startup. Even if the only control panel
you can get to is on a bootable CD. (I don't think the OSX and Drive10 CDs
have a startup control panel - only the DiskWarrior CD does.)

> 1)  Is there any advantage to the "other" UNIX disk format?

It is for Unix only. OSX won't work on it. Use HFS+.

> 2)  My internal CD is an ATA mounted on ATA 1 at ID = 0.  If I replaced that
> device with an ATA hard drive, would the computer recognize it?  Perhaps, if
> that could work, it would be a better approach than adding another scsi
> drive as the home to OSX.

That is what I am saying up above. I have doubts that a SCSI drive will
work.

> ...Of course, then I'd have no way to startup via the CD - as my external CDRW
> is a scsi and won't serve that purpose - but if starting up from the CD isn't
> necessary for installation, I can live with that.

When you go to OSX on a beige G3, I think you are going to lose all SCSI.
But do you not have an internal CD? If you don't, then for my drive-change
method to work, I hope you at least have the lose internal power and data
cables for it.
 
> 3)  Allan.  Re your upgrade report, yes, I have it, thank you.  Did you try
> OSX before upgrading the processor to 500?  Did tweak the system bus to get
> a better matchup or is it still running at 66?  If you didn't tweak, I
> wonder how much improvement you're actually seeing due to installation of
> the 500.

I did not try OSX until the new processor and drive were installed. I don't
know how to tweak the bus - it is not just hardware and printed circuits?
OSX on the Sonnet 500 Mhz is like OS9 was on the Apple 266 Mhz. And OS9 on
the Sonnet 500 Mhz is really zippy.

The speed issue is a sore point for old machines, and even for the slower
new machines, on OSX. It is not about progress bars. The problem is that the
reaction time of the OSX GUI can be a little behind that of a fast-working
Mac operator. If you are into production, it is a water-torture to have the
machine be a half-second slower than your synapses.

Allan Atherton



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