Dec 29, 2019, 23:51 by blazin...@gmail.com:

> That's good, thanks for taking the time to test it. Did you use the lcnc 
> version or the old mk version?
>
I used the current LinuxCNC version.

>
> it'll be a bit before my setup is ready to try it. I suppose by then it will 
> be pulled into the mk-hal repo and a simple update will will install it?
>
Don't know. If it was stricken for specific reason, it would probably not be 
good to introduce it again.

Cern.

>
> On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 11:17:14 AM UTC-5, ce...@tuta.io wrote:
>
>> OK, 
>> an arduino found, packaged example code tested and it looks like it is 
>> working. So simple copy&paste solution. 
>>  
>> Still have no idea why it was deleted from machinekit-hal package. 
>>  
>> Cern. 
>>  
>>  
>> Dec 28, 2019, 21:11 by >> ce...@tuta.io <>>> : 
>>  
>> > Hmmm..., 
>> > 
>> > simple Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V from LinuxCNC repository to Machinekit-HAL 
>> > repository seems to work (at least it compiles and so something, I have 
>> > nothing for extra quick test [would have to find my arduino]) - >> 
>> > https://github.com/cerna/>> machinekit-hal/tree/import->> 
>> > mb2hal-from-linuxcnc>>  . Even the include command in src/Makefile was 
>> > still there. 
>> > 
>> > Cern. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Dec 28, 2019, 18:22 by >> blaz...@gmail.com <>>> : 
>> > 
>> >> A commit a year ago in MK legacy addresses something with libmodbus. 
>> >> >> https://github.com/machinekit/>> machinekit/tree/master/src/>> 
>> >> >> hal/user_comps/mb2hal>>  
>> >> 
>> >> I don't know that I was asking specifically about LinuxCNC's version 
>> >> unless there is a more recent change that matters. The version that was 
>> >> in MK is probably fine if it's useable. 
>> >> 
>> >> On Saturday, December 28, 2019 at 12:10:25 PM UTC-5, >> ce...@tuta.io 
>> >> <>>>  wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >>> Well, looking at the mb2hal in LinuxCNC repository, I - at first glance 
>> >>> - don't see any reason why it should not work in the Machinekit (maybe 
>> >>> with some simple and generally automatic code changes). 
>> >>>   
>> >>> So I would really like to know the reason behind removing it. I think 
>> >>> (trying to remember) that there was some issue with the libmodbus 
>> >>> library and Debian package which mb2hal is wrapper around. 
>> >>>   
>> >>> Cern. 
>> >>>   
>> >>>   
>> >>> Dec 28, 2019, 16:40 by >> >> blaz...@gmail.com <>>>  <>>> : 
>> >>>   
>> >>> > Just navigating the split repo directories, "user" comps still exist 
>> >>> > in the typical directory of MK-hal, tho mb2hal is missing. Nothing 
>> >>> > like that seems to exist in MK-CNC so I assumed the MO was to keep the 
>> >>> > user comps in MK-HAL as is. mb2hal also works over serial which aside 
>> >>> > from Mesa smartserial I don't think has ever been considered "RT" in 
>> >>> > linuxCNC likely because of baud rates. While I'm sure RT modbus is 
>> >>> > probably quite useful I don't think the main use for it is usually RT 
>> >>> > critical. Generally it would take the place of other serial protocols 
>> >>> > with the convenience of TCP as well for interfacing with something 
>> >>> > else that is running faster at a hardware level, like talking to a VFD 
>> >>> > or commanding a servo drive. I think getting it in there in it's 
>> >>> > current form if possible is probably more important than addressing RT 
>> >>> > changes, which could always be added later I suppose.  
>> >>> > 
>> >>> > On Saturday, December 28, 2019 at 9:50:53 AM UTC-5, >> >> 
>> >>> > ce...@tuta.io <>>>  <>>>  wrote: 
>> >>> > 
>> >>> >> I remember that there was some problem with Modbus module which I 
>> >>> >> thought was solved by ArcEye. (Maybe he will chime in.) But given 
>> >>> >> that it was the so called "userspace" component, it would be in 
>> >>> >> machinekit-cnc, not machinekit-hal. But it doesn't look like it is 
>> >>> >> there. 
>> >>> >>   
>> >>> >> The problem with mb2hal is that it presents itself as a non-real-time 
>> >>> >> component (Modbus is generally considered as a non-RT), but as far as 
>> >>> >> I know the Modbus RTU can be used in RT, the TCP because of inner 
>> >>> >> working of TCP communication cannot. 
>> >>> >>   
>> >>> >> Given the "RT" and "userspace" components definition in Machinekit is 
>> >>> >> a prehistoric vintage from LinuxCNC which outlived it's usefuness, 
>> >>> >> maybe it is time to have something capable both of RT and non-RT 
>> >>> >> functioning. 
>> >>> >>   
>> >>> >> I am planning something for which I will need the modbus 
>> >>> >> communication, problem is, I plan in years. 
>> >>> >>   
>> >>> >> Cern. 
>> >>> >>   
>> >>> >>   
>> >>> >> Dec 28, 2019, 02:36 by >> >> >> blaz...@gmail.com <>>>  <>>>  <>>> : 
>> >>> >>   
>> >>> >> > Maybe a slight misunderstanding as I just realized mb2hal does 
>> >>> >> > exist in the (legacy?) MK repo but is missing from the mk-hal split 
>> >>> >> > repo as is a couple other user comps. 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> > I'm not requesting a special lcnc flavored mb2hal, As modbus is a 
>> >>> >> > protocol I would expect a working modbus component to work 
>> >>> >> > generically. What I'm asking is is there a particular reason it's 
>> >>> >> > not in the split repo? If it fails to build for whatever reason I'm 
>> >>> >> > sure I'm not the person anyone wants modifying the code and PR'ing 
>> >>> >> > it. I could however help test it. 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> > On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 6:50:45 PM UTC-5, Michael Brown 
>> >>> >> > wrote: 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> >> As things are currently I'm certain that if you convert any 
>> >>> >> >> "simple" existing mk userspace component and replace the 
>> >>> >> >> functional code with 
>> >>> >> >> that lcnc modbus component you are requesting, test it, get it to 
>> >>> >> >> function as expected and lastly create a PR.. 
>> >>> >> >> Someone eventually will forward the pr request into the repo ... 
>> >>> >> >> :-) 
>> >>> >> >> 
>> >>> >> >> Best wishes 
>> >>> >> >> Michael Brown 
>> >>> >> >> 
>> >>> >> >> On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 4:46:09 PM UTC+1, justin White 
>> >>> >> >> wrote: 
>> >>> >> >> 
>> >>> >> >>> Bump...not alotta interest in modbus in my eh? 
>> >>> >> >>> 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> > 
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