>>><http://homepage.mac.com/sparkyspark/utadmin.html>
>>>Looking at the source for that page, it seems like fairly basic HTML
and I
>>>can't find any errors.
I can't speak to the rest of the issues you report, but the sample page
doesn't validate using the
W3C HTML validator at http://validator.w3.org>. The big problem is that
since you supply no DTD, the browser treats it as non-compliant html,
meaning you're bypassing lots of standards support.
I also ran the validator explicitly specifying HTML 3.2 and HTML 4.01
Transitional -- the document failed validation in those cases as well.
Many of the validation problems are caused by many tags illegally
contained inside an <A> (<a name="basic">)
Just a thought, but from looking at the usage of tags in that file, many
of the tags seem to exist to force side-effects that historically varied
from browser-to-browser, and should not be depended upon. Excessive use
of <p> tags to force space in the document rather than to separate
blocks of text are an example of this. By using CSS and styling
block-level elements, you'll be able to achieve the formatting you want
in a standards compliant, predictable manner.
--Brad
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Frakes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 5:05 PM
To: Mac Internet Explorer Talk
Subject: Some IE feedback
Over the past year or so, I've jotted down some "issues" I've had with
IE
that are reproducible. I figure that maybe someone on the IE team might
be
interested ;) IE is the only browser I use regularly, so these are
constructive in nature.
Without further ado...
(all comments apply to IE 5)
EUR Often when I click in non-link areas of a web page, it acts as if I
clicked on one of the links on the page (as if the links "bleed" into
the
non-link areas).
EUR There is no key combination for "home page" that I could find.
EUR IE does not provide functional multiple monitor support: If the main
window is positioned on the 2nd monitor, additional windows appear in
the
main monitor. On all other browsers, new windows cascade down from the
main
window.
EUR New windows (even on the primary monitor) don't necessarily cascade
properly -- sometimes new windows are different sizes. I understand the
issue where some site generates a pop-up window, you close it, and then
the
next window IE opens will be the same size as that. I'm actually not
talking
about that situation. The issue I'm talking about is that sometimes new
windows will open with slightly different (narrower, shorter)
dimensions.
I've repeated this on several different systems.
EUR IE doesn't use standard Mac editing features in text boxes
(option-arrow
to move ahead one word, command-arrow to jump to end of the line, shift
to
highlight, etc.).
EUR Some pages with very basic HTML don't show up properly. The
following is a
page I noticed earlier this year; on other browsers it shows up with
white,
yellow and orange text on a black background, while in IE on three
different
computers, much of the text does not show up:
<http://homepage.mac.com/sparkyspark/utadmin.html>
Looking at the source for that page, it seems like fairly basic HTML and
I
can't find any errors.
EUR When typing in a text box, the "escape" key erases EVERYTHING in the
box.
This is also the case with IE for Windows, so maybe it's done on
purpose.
However, I can think of no logic for this functionality. Erasing a text
box
is done pretty easily by selecting all and hitting delete. On the other
hand, I can even count the number of times I've been typing a long
message
in a text box in a web page, and while trying to press the "`" key or
"1"
key I accidentally hit "escape" and lost everything. This is especially
problematic on PowerBooks and iBooks, where the "escape" hey is directly
adjacent to those other keys.
EUR I often open links on a page in new windows so that they can load
while
I'm reading the current page. If you open a link in a new window, the
URL of
the new page doesn't show up in the address bar until *after* the site
is
loaded. In Navigator/Communicator, iCab, and other browsers, the URL
shows
up as soon as you open the window. This is true whether you select "Open
Link in New Window" or command-click on a link. The problem with IE's
approach is that if a link fails to load, I don't know what that link
was.
The approach offered by other browsers is clearly more useful.
Again, these are offered constructively. I love IE; I just want it to be
perfect ;)
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