>Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 14:42:22 -0500
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>At 04:52 AM -0800 11/06/2005, Aaron wrote:
>>  have two TCP/IP ports active at once.
>
>The necessary routing software is already on your Mac, in Mentat/TCP (Open 
>Transport/IP).  You just need an interface to use to turn it on!  Check out 
>IPNetRouter, from Sustworks.
>
>The catch?  IPNR isn't cheap.  Most people prefer cheap home/office NAT 
>routers.

I'm certainly not going to spend any serious money (more than the cost of a 
good latte!) on what's only (1) a temporary expedient until I consolidate all 
my hard drives, etc., in my G4 and (2) a training exercise in networking.

>Or use your OS X Mac to do the routing.

If you mean that I should connect the dialup line to the OS X machine, I'm 
going to do that promptly. After that, the only routing I'll need to do on the 
old machine is with LocalTalk Bridge (or LaserWriter Bridge (?)) to my old LW 
4/600. (BTW, I have a LW 12/640 that I may be able to revive. Can I use it with 
OS X? It does have an ethernet connection.)

> >  >If your network is based on a switch or hub, you'll be fine.
>>
>>I'm not clear what difference that would make, since the ethernet
>>connection (using a crossover cable) works fine when the
>>higher-level protocols are set right.
>
>Exactly.  No diff.  This is a routing problem at the IP level.
>
>>I have not, BTW, been able to see the OS 9 machine FROM the OS X machine.
>
>Which matches my general experience.

But see below!

>Jaguar -> Mac OS 8/9, AFP/AT, works well.
>
>Panther -> Mac OS 8/9, AFP/AT, is skiddish at best. You can go for days 
>without the OS X machine being able to even see the OS 8/9 file services. Then 
>if you do see them, it's slower than with Jaguar and will usually die during 
>big file transfers.
>
>Panther -> Mac OS 9, AFP/IP works better, but still slow and has time-out 
>problems now and then.
>
>Haven't tried Tiger yet.
>
>Lame, Apple, lame.
>
>- Dan.

>Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 00:34:15 -0500
>From: pegleg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Aaron wrote:
>
>> I have not, BTW, been able to see the OS 9 machine FROM the OS X machine. (I 
>> do have File Sharing turned on in OS 9 and one of my volumes has sharing 
>> permissions set.) It doesn't show up in the list of servers under the 
>> Network item in the sidebar. Maybe there's something else I need to be doing 
>> about this.
>
>For OSX make sure you also have Appletalk checked in the "Directory 
>Access.app" found in the utilities folder of Panther.

It worked! I can now access my files on the OS 9 Mac from the OS X Mac!

In fact, I was able for a while to run Eudora on the OS X Mac with the Eudora 
folder on the OS 9 Mac. At some point, however, the OS 9 Mac (a PTP with a G3 
card and an ATA card, BTW) totally froze, naturally severing the connection. I 
don't know if the freeze had anything to do with the networking or not. But it 
was such an extreme freeze that I couldn't reboot from the keyboard, but had to 
first turn it off with the power button. I also wonder whether it could have 
been caused by Display Sleep or Hard Disc Sleep on the OS 9 machine. (System 
Sleep is turned off.)

>For OS9 make sure that a directory or volume is shared. Select the icon of the 
>appropriate item and choose "Get Info/Sharing ..."  from the File Menu. "Share 
>this item and it's contents" should be checked along with account info for who 
>can access the OS9 Mac.
>
>Bob

 - Aaron

PS. I have various questions regarding transferring my hardware to the G4, but 
I'll ask those on another, more appropriate, list.


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