On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 06:17 PM, Heather Madrone wrote:
Interesting. I know a great many folks who would differ. But that is besides the point. If you chose to tell us that you are disgusted with Powerbook, how about also telling us *why* that is so. Maybe some of us will see a different point of view, maybe we will try and help you see another way.Hi, I'm Heather Madrone, and I just signed onto this list this morning.At 10:44 PM 11/14/2002 +0000, Phil Dobbin wrote:Switch, whether from Mac OS 9 or Win32, definitely ain't happening here :-(I just got a Powerbook a week ago, and I'm so disgusted with it that I'm
thinking of switching back. I've been a programmer since 1980, and
have worked in a variety of environments, mostly Unix. I've never had
a more frustrating experience with a new system, except trying to get
Oracle installed on NCR.
ActivePerl under emacs? Dunno what that means exactly. However, ActivePerl on Windoze is a very good product. Sometimes I wish there were something like that on other platforms, not just OS X. But then, Unix has its own strengths.I've been using ActivePerl under emacs in Windows for the past several years. As soon as I get perl underway on OSX, I'll be moving my perl programs over. I'm running perl 5.8 on mac 10.2.
Perl 5.8.0 on OS X 10.2.x does have some problems in that it can conflict with previously compiled libraries. But it seems to be working for a lot of people (I am still on Perl 5.6.0 because I don't know any better).
What is really confusing is that you are disgusted with your PB and OS X, and yet, you will be moving all your programs over. Why bother? And why did you choose a PB/OS X in the first place? You could have just as well bought a Windoze laptop and continued with what was familiar. Would have worked well.
There is a Carbonized emacs (search Google), and there is recurring discussion on this list on how to set LANG and locale, in various permutations and combinations (terminal, system-wide, even cron). Just search the list archives for locale.I haven't yet been able to figure out how to get the carbon build of emacs (a gui emacs) to import the locale so that the perl debugger will run under emacs. Any suggestions for the best way to handle that?
no idea. Just say "install whateveryouwant" at the cpan prompt and it does it all.Also, which make do you use to get modules installed from CPAN?
Please elaborate more on your problems. That is the only way others can help you.
Puneet.
