No doubt it caused some tempest. I was wrong, homebrew’s published stats say they have 5 million openssl installs this year <https://formulae.brew.sh/analytics/install/365d/ <https://formulae.brew.sh/analytics/install/365d/>>
and our analytics say we have 547 <https://ports.macports.org/port/openssl/stats?days=30&days_ago=0 <https://ports.macports.org/port/openssl/stats?days=30&days_ago=0>> And if you think that doesn’t drive everyone’s decision-making extremely powerfully, I would say we are missing the marketing train. Here’s their blurb <https://docs.brew.sh/Analytics <https://docs.brew.sh/Analytics>> about justifying it. Again, I know MacPorts is not going to change that (no point now). But from a ‘business’ point of view, it was masterful. K > On Jun 13, 2020, at 8:25 AM, Andrew Janke <fl...@apjanke.net> wrote: > > Hi y'all, > > I was a core Homebrew maintainer at the time they added analytics. Just > want to say that Saagar is right; there were a *lot* of Homebrew users > who did in fact have a problem with it. > > Cheers, > Andrwe > > > On 6/12/20 9:03 PM, Saagar Jha wrote: >> I believe the lack of change there is almost certainly a matter of the >> project’s personal stance rather than “nobody having a problem with it”. In >> fact, after the change was merged in there was a fairly long discussion >> about first disclosing that there were analytics collected at all (which did >> eventually get implemented) and then switching off of Google Analytics or >> making it opt-in, which weren’t. Actually, there were multiple discussions >> but they like the original were generally closed as “WONTFIX” and this has >> been the policy to this day. >> >> Personally, I would be fairly disappointed if MacPorts went opt-in as such >> policies suffer from statistical issues in addition to the obvious >> privacy-related ones. >> >> Saagar Jha >> >>> On Jun 12, 2020, at 16:48, Ken Cunningham <ken.cunningham.web...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Just FYI Homebrew has always been opt-out for stats. Nobody seems to have a >>> problem with that sufficient to make them change that policy. >>> >>> We'll never know if that is why they seem to have 10 x the users on their >>> stats page. >>> >>> K >
