sorry —we’re 835 openssl installs. wrong drop-down. K
> On Jun 13, 2020, at 8:56 AM, Ken Cunningham <ken.cunningham.web...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > No doubt it caused some tempest. > > I was wrong, homebrew’s published stats say they have 5 million openssl > installs this year <https://formulae.brew.sh/analytics/install/365d/ > <https://formulae.brew.sh/analytics/install/365d/>> > > and our analytics say we have 547 > <https://ports.macports.org/port/openssl/stats?days=30&days_ago=0 > <https://ports.macports.org/port/openssl/stats?days=30&days_ago=0>> > > And if you think that doesn’t drive everyone’s decision-making extremely > powerfully, I would say we are missing the marketing train. > > Here’s their blurb <https://docs.brew.sh/Analytics > <https://docs.brew.sh/Analytics>> about justifying it. > > Again, I know MacPorts is not going to change that (no point now). But from a > ‘business’ point of view, it was masterful. > > > K > > > > > >> On Jun 13, 2020, at 8:25 AM, Andrew Janke <fl...@apjanke.net >> <mailto:fl...@apjanke.net>> wrote: >> >> Hi y'all, >> >> I was a core Homebrew maintainer at the time they added analytics. Just >> want to say that Saagar is right; there were a *lot* of Homebrew users >> who did in fact have a problem with it. >> >> Cheers, >> Andrwe >> >> >> On 6/12/20 9:03 PM, Saagar Jha wrote: >>> I believe the lack of change there is almost certainly a matter of the >>> project’s personal stance rather than “nobody having a problem with it”. In >>> fact, after the change was merged in there was a fairly long discussion >>> about first disclosing that there were analytics collected at all (which >>> did eventually get implemented) and then switching off of Google Analytics >>> or making it opt-in, which weren’t. Actually, there were multiple >>> discussions but they like the original were generally closed as “WONTFIX” >>> and this has been the policy to this day. >>> >>> Personally, I would be fairly disappointed if MacPorts went opt-in as such >>> policies suffer from statistical issues in addition to the obvious >>> privacy-related ones. >>> >>> Saagar Jha >>> >>>> On Jun 12, 2020, at 16:48, Ken Cunningham <ken.cunningham.web...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:ken.cunningham.web...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Just FYI Homebrew has always been opt-out for stats. Nobody seems to have >>>> a problem with that sufficient to make them change that policy. >>>> >>>> We'll never know if that is why they seem to have 10 x the users on their >>>> stats page. >>>> >>>> K >> >
