I’ve been looking at VPS providers, and most of them offer SSD-based VPSs, so 
they seem to be increasingly popular. I suspect that most VPSs do not get 
consistently hammered, though.

Peter
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> On 8 Mar 2021, at 11:30 am, Todd Doucet <t...@lambentresearch.com> wrote:
> 
> I think one can only get so far with purely qualitative analysis of the 
> characteristics of SSDs and HDs and then the end of that analysis will be 
> one-size-fits all advice, for example "recommended" or "not recommended" for 
> servers.
> 
> Surely the answer might vary depending on the particular server usage 
> pattern, the need for performance, the cost of routine maintenance (swapping 
> out aging drives or SSDs), the cost of the devices themselves, etc.
> 
> It seems to me that a given server operator can tell how long a particular 
> SSD is likely to last.  They do not fail randomly, at least not very much.  
> The fail when they are "used up" and you can figure out well in advance, 
> usually, when you will need to swap the old ones out of service.
> 
> HDs fail also, obviously, but tend not to be so predictable about it.  
> Whether it makes sense for a given server to use an SSD really does depend on 
> the numbers.  All drives will fail.  All drives will need to be rotated out 
> of service.  It is a matter of cost, convenience, and performance.
> 
> The only caveat I can think of is that there might be an issue of malicious 
> use--a server with SSDs might be vulnerable to a wear attack, depending on 
> the server services offered, I suppose.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> To emphasize again, the reason SSDs aren’t recommended for servers is 
>> because servers—by definition—see much heavier service, and these read/write 
>> cycles are used up more quickly.
>> 
>> For personal use in a PC, or such, SSDs are proving to be the dream they 
>> were promised to be.
>> 
>> As mentioned, given time, the technology will overcome this limitation for 
>> use in servers and these comments will be just so much past history.
>> 
>> Dave C.
>> 
>> - - - 
>> 
>> > The “on/off” switches in SSD’s are fragile and essentially break after 
>> > too many read/write cycles.  As pointed out, it’s a get what you pay for 
>> > world and cheap SSD’s are just that… cheap.   The expensive ones are more 
>> > reliable because they actually make available only a portion of their 
>> > total capacity, reserving the rest as replacements for such failures.  
>> > Intelligent software within the firmware manages this so that the end user 
>> > experiences a much longer device lifespan.
>> > 
>> > There’s lots of technical documentation for such.  Google knows.
>> > 
>> > Regards,
>> > 
>> > 
>> >>> On Mar 7, 2021, at 18:15, Michael A. Leonetti via macports-users 
>> >>> <macports-users@lists.macports.org 
>> >>> <mailto:macports-users@lists.macports.org>> wrote:
>> >> I’d really love to know more about what you’re saying here. Up until I 
>> >> just read what you wrote, I thought SSDs were the savior of HDDs.
>> >> Michael A. Leonetti
>> >> As warm as green tea
>> >>> 3/7/21 午後5:26、Dave Horsfall <d...@horsfall.org 
>> >>> <mailto:d...@horsfall.org>>のメール:
>> >>> On Sat, 6 Mar 2021, Dave C via macports-users wrote:
>> >>>> Isn’t SSD a bad choice for server duty? No server farms use them, 
>> >>>> apparently due to short lifespan.
>> >>> If you knew how SSDs worked then you wouldn't use them at all without 
>> >>> many backups.  Give me spinning rust any day...
>> >>> -- Dave

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