next time you go in, tap twice quickly with three fingers. this turns voice over on and off. Pete
_____ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:19 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IPhone Wows My manager and I went over to the ATT store yesterday to play with 3GS for the first time. We probably fiddled for about 30 minutes and within that time could do quite a bit of basic stuff. The first snag was getting VO turned on which required sighted assistance since the phones were cabled down at a kiosk and not hooked up to iTunes on a desktop. On another podcast there was a question about whether Apple has some kind of voice command to turn VO on but nobody knew if it existed or what it was. That said, once VO was on it took a little bit to get the hang of three finger flicking and to realize that double tap meant to hold on the thing you want to action and then tap with another finger. We also had to be careful with making sure we didn't hold the phone totally horizontal as sometimes it would flip into portrait mode, moving everything around. Typing was a bit difficult but improved as time went by such that it seemed like it would become quite usable given some practice. 30 minutes or so wasn't enough but it was already getting easier. Main thing was that the keys were very small in portrait so putting a thumb down flat covered several keys. Finger tips worked much better but finger nails didn't work. We actually launched a random 3rd party app called Dictionary which was already on the phone and it worked just fine, which was a nice touch since it probably predates VO on the iPhone. One snag was that when deleting characters in a text box it wasn't always obvious what characters were about to be deleted, but maybe we missed some cues in the somewhat noisy store. Anyway, it seems very positive that in only a short bit of fiddling around the universal access interface was usable and we could get stuff done. CB Victor Tsaran wrote: I think IPhone 3GS is a wonderful tool for low vision people -- it is the first truly accessible phone where everything is magnified. I cannot say that I would cash out for IPhone as a blind user though. But I truly appreciate Apple's pushing envelope with technology -- this is something I'd love to see more companies do. Vic On 6/21/2009 10:50 AM, John Denning wrote: My wife who is a high partial has had an iPhone all along. So we got her a new 3GS phone Friday. I've not had a lot of time on it, but have had some. So far I'm impressed also. I need to read some instructions though. I can turn on the Zoom, and invert. But I believe there is a way to easily jump between various settings. Like is there a gesture to switch between inverted and normal? I know how to zoom in and out. Trying to get my employer to spring for the phone since I'm required to have a mobile phone. They one they got me is NOT at all accessible. I can make the text a tiny bit larger is all. So get me this real off the shelf solution. On Jun 20, 2009, at 12:02 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: I played with the iPhone that was on display. Wow, ... I was shocked. It felt like a natural use, expecially in Calculator. I love the phone. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---