next time you go in,   tap twice quickly with three fingers.  this turns
voice over on and off.
 
Pete

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:19 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone Wows


My manager and I went over to the ATT store yesterday to play with 3GS for
the first time. We probably fiddled for about 30 minutes and within that
time could do quite a bit of basic stuff. The first snag was getting VO
turned on which required sighted assistance since the phones were cabled
down at a kiosk and not hooked up to iTunes on a desktop. On another podcast
there was a question about whether Apple has some kind of voice command to
turn VO on but nobody knew if it existed or what it was. That said, once VO
was on it took a little bit to get the hang of three finger flicking and to
realize that double tap meant to hold on the thing you want to action and
then tap with another finger. We also had to be careful with making sure we
didn't hold the phone totally horizontal as sometimes it would flip into
portrait mode, moving everything around. Typing was a bit difficult but
improved as time went by such that it seemed like it would become quite
usable given some practice. 30 minutes or so wasn't enough but it was
already getting easier. Main thing was that the keys were very small in
portrait so putting a thumb down flat covered several keys. Finger tips
worked much better but finger nails didn't work. We actually launched a
random 3rd party app called Dictionary which was already on the phone and it
worked just fine, which was a nice touch since it probably predates VO on
the iPhone. One snag was that when deleting characters in a text box it
wasn't always obvious what characters were about to be deleted, but maybe we
missed some cues in the somewhat noisy store. Anyway, it seems very positive
that in only a short bit of fiddling around the universal access interface
was usable and we could get stuff done.

CB

Victor Tsaran wrote: 

I think IPhone 3GS is a wonderful tool for low vision people -- it is 

the first truly accessible phone where everything is magnified. I cannot 

say that I would cash out for IPhone as a blind user though. But I truly 

appreciate Apple's pushing envelope with technology -- this is something 

I'd love to see more companies do.

Vic



On 6/21/2009 10:50 AM, John Denning wrote:

  

My wife who is a high partial has had an iPhone all along. So we got

her a new 3GS phone Friday. I've not had a lot of time on it, but have

had some. So far I'm impressed also.



I need to read some instructions though. I can turn on the Zoom, and

invert. But I believe there is a way to easily jump between various

settings. Like is there a gesture to switch between inverted and

normal? I know how to zoom in and out.



Trying to get my employer to spring for the phone since I'm required

to have a mobile phone. They one they got me is NOT at all accessible.

I can make the text a tiny bit larger is all. So get me this real off

the shelf solution.





On Jun 20, 2009, at 12:02 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:



    

I played with the iPhone that was on display. Wow, ... I was shocked.

It felt like a natural use, expecially in Calculator.



I love the phone.

      

    





  





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