Smile, I'm not use to the Mac environment at all. This is my first apple
equipment.
Not doing too bad with it for only less than a month.
May and Wynter with a y
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From: Scott Howell
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: Article Slamming the iPhone
Well it would be hard for me to say much on the iPhone based on the fact I
have not had the chance to work with one. However, from my experiences and
listening to those who have used the iPhone, they seem to have better luck
navigating around etc. than I have had with Mobile Speak. Then again, if your
used to the Mac environment, the iPHone will appeal a bit more as well. So, I
hear what your saying, but I'd have to at this point say the interface would
likely be more to my liking. Other than that, as I said, it will come down to
experience and like Alex pointed out, this is the closest you get to what a
sighted user experiences as well. Now is that a qualifier? Well I guess that
all depends. Me, I want something that integrates nicely and provides a good
user experience. So, guess I'll have more to say when I get one. :)
On Jul 13, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Damon Fibraio wrote:
OK. I understand what you are saying. But is there anything about the
I-phone beyond that? I mean, featurewise or functionality. I am replying to
somebody who said they get more from the i-phone than they get from their
windows mobile phone and I am curious to know why. What is different? I mean, I
have been on the net with my blackjack 2. Why is the i-phone better and easier?
What else does the i-phone do besides make calls and get on the net, for
example? This goes beyond the fact that voice over is built in and it saves
money. I got that part. I just hear that people are finding this more powerful
than a windows smart phone and I am curious to know how.
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 3:11 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Article Slamming the iPhone
Well let me put it into perspective from my point of view. When it comes
right down to it, cost, cost, and cost. All the adaptive solutions you mention
cost lots of money. I'm by no means unable to afford the adaptive solutions,
but I also realize that the adaptive market is small and the cost will be
considerably more do to the limited market. However, why should I pay oh, maybe
$150 for the phone, $300 or so for the screen reader, and then another $895
for the GPS solution. So, now I have invested $1,345 into a phone that will get
me around and generally offer me fairly accessible benefits to some apps. Where
now with the iPhone I can spend $199 or $299 and get great access to pretty
much anything I need, tight integration with my Mac without needing a
third-party app that I would likely have to pay for, and a future of other
capabilities that will not cost me nearly as much. So, really in my opinion I'd
rather spend the money on other things and really to be honest, it always will
come down to what works for you and fits within your budget. If you are happy
with the setup you have, then that is great and I am pleased for you. However,
the other thing here is choice and that is probably a close second in my book.
Having choice is great and yes, it is also great that I can just go to the
Apple store and buy the phone if I choose to do so and be up and running right
away. I don't have to unregister and reregister a phone etc. Now of course
don't take my message as picking on you or any of the developers of the
software, I'm merely answering your question with my opinion. Again , hey what
works for you is all that matters in the end and you are happy with your choice
because you are the one using it, not me. :)
On Jul 13, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Damon Fibraio wrote:
OK, consider me a newbie. I have a Samsung blackjack 2 windows mobile smart
phone with mobile speak and was planning on purchasing mobile geo. I keep
hearing everybody going absolutely crazy over access to the I-phone. Can
somebody tell me why this is so great? I don’t really understand the hype. I do
understand we get access right out of the box with voice over. I do understand
that once you get used to the touch screen and the VO gestures and whatnot that
this is really great access, according to what everybody is saying. But, why is
the I-phone so great? Does it do GPS comparable to mobile Geo or wayfinder?
What does this phone do that is making everybody turn inside out? I’d love to
understand this, so any help you can provide would be great. I have AT&T and
probably could switch if I wanted to, but I just don’t understand why this
phone is the second coming.
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Find me on facebook as Damon fibraio or twitter as dfibraio
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:37 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Article Slamming the iPhone
Hey Josh, I think the same question can be asked of those users who first
laid hands on one of those touch-screen PDAs, but I guess some of those or most
had keyboards. However, then we can take this same logic to any new interface.
For example, those who remember the days of switching from DOS to Windows or
who used the Linux command line and then moved to Gnome etc. Ah how the debate
rages, but alas this to shall pass. I myself can't wait to get an iPhone and I
can already see all the advantages it will offer over the windows mobile device
I am using currently and don't much care for.
On Jul 13, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
What I'd like to ask all these folks saying the iPhone is so inefficient
is: How efficient were you three weeks after the first time you ever touched a
QWERTY keyboard? It's a whole new model for human interface interaction. After
three weeks, I have no problems just touching the battery status, or really
much of anything else. Things are not hard to find. They do not move around,
and the flick method of navigation is great when you are having trouble with a
brand-new and unfamiliar screen.
Sitting with an iPhone for an hour and then declaring it slow, inefficient,
and difficult to navigate is just silly. :) The ever growing number of VI
iPhone users will tell you the same. Sure, it takes time to be comfortable.
Once you are, it's fantastic. :)
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