Hi,

Cocoaclipse, the Cocoa port of the Eclipse Javae IDE is apparently  
good with VO.

Regards,
Alex,


On 21-Jul-09, at 4:54 AM, Garry Turkington wrote:

>
> Hi James/Alex,
>
> Thanks for your input here.  James, I'd be interested to hear if  
> you've
> done any configuring to make access to apps on the remote machines  
> you ssh
> to better?
>
> Coming back to my 3 questions thanks for the clarification re  
> interaction
> with the scroll area for screen review, that's fine.
>
> But I'm still frustrated that multi-line output from commands isn't
> automatically read and would either require me to interact with the  
> scroll
> area to review the output or as Alex suggests pipe output to a file  
> for
> review.  I'll be doing primarily Java development (with some
> C++/Python/Ruby thrown in) so an efficient edit/compile/debug cycle is
> really important.  Getting the output of the Java compiler to read  
> as it
> appears instead of having to review it or even worse pipe out and  
> review
> would probably improve my productivity by an order of magnitude.
>
> On the remaining point does anyone use any ncurses based apps such  
> as Pine
> or Lynx on remote machines and discovered a way for better cursor
> tracking?  Anyone raised terminal accessibility issues with Apple?
>
> Many thanks,
> Garry
>
> -- 
> Garry Turkington
> garry.turking...@gmail.com
>
> On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Michael Babcock wrote:
>
>>
>> hi;
>> jumping in here, but i use terminal all the time for sshing into  
>> the 3
>> servers i administer, if someone has a better way to do this, that
>> would be wonderful, but i just use it now and love it:)
>> On Jul 21, 2009, at 1:10 AM, James & Nash wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Alex and all,
>>>
>>> Aren't VIM and Nano Linux command line tools? I'm sure I've seen
>>> them when
>>> I've played with Linux? You can port these to the Mac I take it how
>>> cool.
>>>
>>> Take care
>>>
>>> James
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Alex Jurgensen" <asquare...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 5:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Optimizing terminal accessibility
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Gary,
>>>>
>>>> I use it all day with varied success. Nano is a new eddition to my
>>>> toolbox and it seems to have a few qwerks, but nothing major. I  
>>>> also
>>>> used to use VIM, but found it crashed a lot with VO.
>>>>
>>>> You are correct that interacting and moving the VO cursor is the  
>>>> only
>>>> way to read prior text.
>>>>
>>>> As far as interuptions, you should pipe the contents to a file and
>>>> read it from teh file instead.
>>>>
>>>> What knd of development are you doing?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Alex,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 20-Jul-09, at 8:09 PM, Garry Turkington wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I played with the Mac terminal last year and got some help from
>>>>> people
>>>>> here re its accessibility.  I'm now using my Mac a lot more and  
>>>>> want
>>>>> to
>>>>> get the most out of the terminal so am requesting wisdom from  
>>>>> others
>>>>> out
>>>>> there.
>>>>>
>>>>> From the command line I really  need the ability to do development
>>>>> locally
>>>>> and connect to remote machines via ssh.  I've found a few issues:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Any command that generates multi-line output seems to be
>>>>> truncated by
>>>>> the prompt or new line announcement.  Good example is "java -
>>>>> version".  I
>>>>> can improve this by setting a much shorter prompt in my shell but
>>>>> it's
>>>>> still very hit and miss.  Is there any way to configure things to
>>>>> more
>>>>> reliably read new information?  I've tried messing around with
>>>>> cursor and
>>>>> terminal types with no success that I can really point to.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Is there any way to review prior text on the screen or is
>>>>> interacting
>>>>> with the scroll area and moving the VO cursor up the way to do  
>>>>> that?
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. When connecting to remote machines -- and to a lesser degree
>>>>> locally --
>>>>> I need access to some ncurses applications but the cursor tracking
>>>>> with VO
>>>>> seems very unpredictable.  An example would be to open "lynx -
>>>>> show_cursor"
>>>>> on the remote box and try and say navigate around the CNN  
>>>>> homepage.
>>>>> Or
>>>>> use something like pine where cursoring around changes text
>>>>> highlights.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone got advice as to how I can make all this work better for  
>>>>> me?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>> Garry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Garry Turkington
>>>>> garry.turking...@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
> >


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