Yes, what apple has done is definitely a first. And, this leaves the  
other phone manufacturers without excuse that making a touch screen  
accessible is not possible. Hopefully other companies will build  
accessibility in to their phones, the way it should be.
On Aug 23, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Rich Ring wrote:

> I didn't want an iPhone when I first saw it.  I didn't believe I  
> would master it.  However, with a lot of practice and a lot of  
> yelling at myself and the phone, I feel pretty comfortable with it  
> now.  It is amazing that Apple engineers could come up with a way to  
> make the most visual interface one could imagine workable for people  
> who can't see the screen.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Howell
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 4:37 AM
> Subject: Re: iphone vs pac mate
>
> Yeah, I understand that and the typing wasn't so much the issue,  
> just couldn't quite figure out when I was swiping left/right while  
> in a menu; I was hearing characters and when swiping up/down I was  
> hearing menu items.  Like I said, I've heard all the podcasts and  
> the like, but really had no idea what I was doing really only having  
> it in my hands for just a little while. However, I have a much  
> better feel for it and of course without the security cable  
> attached, it will be much easier to hold and such. I'm very much  
> impressed with the phone and want one. THink I'll be a little more  
> patient and see what happens by the end of the year and if a new  
> model will be out with maybe a little better battery life. :)
> Actually, I'm wondering what folks are finding for battery life.   
> I'm sure mine would be a little shorter then if just using the phone  
> since I'd want to replace my iPod basically. :)
>
> On Aug 22, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>
>> You get used to the typing.  It can take a while, but you do.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> On Aug 22, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>
>>> Funny, I had the opportunity to play with the iPhone at the AT&T  
>>> store today and I so wanted one.  The big thing holding me up is  
>>> that AT&T doesn't have enough coverage quite yet in our subway  
>>> system and VZW does have better coverage in general, but that  
>>> didn't stop me from reaching toward my wallet at least once. The  
>>> only tricky part I couldn't really figure out initially is I had  
>>> open a note and tried typing, but that wasn't quite as successful,  
>>> but then I also had the phone tied to the alarm cable, which  
>>> didn't let me get to far. :) Then I hit home and tried to navigate  
>>> to another app while the notes was open and I heard letters and  
>>> application names.  Well, for not having used the phone ever, it  
>>> wasn't bad and I really didn't have a good environment to play in,  
>>> but the volume was just loud enough for me to do a bit of playing.  
>>> I think it would have been easier if I had been able to just hold  
>>> the phone without any wires and walk around/out the door, I mean  
>>> really get into playing with it.  Now here is the best part. I  
>>> asked the gent at the store about accessing the menu to turn  
>>> VoiceOver on and damn if he didn't know exactly where it was and  
>>> even knew what VoiceOver was. I was quite impressed.
>>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Rich Ring wrote:
>>>
>>>> The iPhone is wonderful in many ways.  I wish I could send  
>>>> contacts via bluetooth as I could with a Nokia phone, and I wish  
>>>> it was a bit easier to delete text messages, and I truly wish the  
>>>> battery life was better, but I do love the little critter.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: John Sanfilippo
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 9:40 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: iphone vs pac mate
>>>>
>>>> personal opinion,
>>>>
>>>> The pac mate and street talk are both dead animals. The only  
>>>> thing I like about the pac mate now is the braille display and  
>>>> the ability to use it or the pac mate itself if either is not  
>>>> working. The braille display is the better part of the hardware,  
>>>> in my opinion.
>>>>
>>>> My experience with the pac mate and street talk, is that:
>>>>
>>>> 1, the gps receiver provided with the package can be far too  
>>>> tardy in tracking satelites, or being tracked by them, take your  
>>>> pick.
>>>>
>>>> 2, you need a blue tooth card installed in one of the cf slots,  
>>>> and your maps installed in the other, which means you need to do  
>>>> some jiggling around and setting up before you can get going.
>>>>
>>>> 3, I found that the entire setup was a hoffible drain on the pm  
>>>> battery. This is true on the cel phone as well, but at least  
>>>> there, I can bring along a spare battery and there is no setup.
>>>>
>>>> My two cents.
>>>>
>>>> js
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: John G. Heim
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:11 PM
>>>> Subject: iphone vs pac mate
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am thinking of selling my Pac Mate in favor of an iphone. My  
>>>> main question
>>>> is whether I can get a comperable GPS system to a Pac Mate with  
>>>> StreetTalk.
>>>>
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