Hi there,
 
at the risk of taking this off topic (and I'm not sure I'm doing so) is the
GWJava stuff open-source?  It would be very interesting indeed to see how
they're doing the communication with the virtual machine.  I'm just thinking
that it might make a nice final year undergraduate project to port across to
OSX.  If you'd like to contact me off-list on this one that would be
perfectly fine.
 
Dónal

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hofstader
Sent: 28 August 2009 12:15
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: why is openoffice accessible and neoofficeenot


I've heard from friends at Sun, the people who brought you the Java Access
Bridge for Windows and GNU/Linux platforms that there has been a Macintosh
version in the works.   

Since then, though, two major events have changed the landscape:

1.  Sun has been acquired by Oracle, a company who, at best, has been
lukewarm to accessibility and the Sun powerhouse accessibility team may be
starved of funds as Oracle doesn't seem to see it as terribly important.

2.  The fellow who, as a volunteer, wrote the newish Window-Eyes Java
support code using the very cool GW scripting facility, did so by ignoring
the Access Bridge and communicating with the Java VM directly.  the GW
scripts are profoundly faster than those in JAWS and they include more
information in a much more well organized manner.  Also, the GW Java is much
more stable as the bridge introduced an entire layer of flaky code.

I don't know anything about how Macintosh programs communicate with each
other but, following the GW lead, I would assume one could build a solution
based on the WE scripts as the part that talks to the VM is going to be very
similar if not identical.

Happy Hacking,
cdh
  

On Aug 27, 2009, at 3:27 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:


Hmm, in the windows world, there was a java access bridge that interfaced
between Windows accessibility and Java Swing. Is there anything like that
for the Mac? I wonder how hard it would be to port. (I am not a good enough
programmer to do this right now.) 

Jon

On Aug 27, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:



>From poking around it would appear that NeoOffice uses Java swing for the
user interface and I suspect the Java swing to apple accessibility API
connections are either not wired up or non-existant. I just downloaded
NeoOffice and isntalled patch 7 and it was still inaccessible. It defaulted
to opening up a text processor document and nothing I typed was read back to
me.

CB

a radix wrote: 

Hello, I wonder, why is neooffice not accessible? I thought it was a fork of
openoffice and even a fork made more for the mac then openoffice. Should it
not then be more accesible?
Greetings, Anouk,















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