Hmm, everything? Have you found a MUD client of the likes of Mush-z, that is free? Also, there are very few games for the blind on mac, although I must honestly say I don't play many games on Windows anyway, lol.
Sent from my iPod > On Apr 1, 2014, at 23:31, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: > > Yes, you can even reinstall your operating system completely without sighted > help, this is something windows does not provide. If someone offered me a > windows PC for free, I would say, thanks, but no thanks. the mac does > everything I need, and does it better than windows. >> On Apr 1, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Andrew Lamanche <ioani...@me.com> wrote: >> >> All I have to say is that Mac is much much more stable than Windows with a >> screen reader. If things go wrong, I rarely feel I'm out of control. I am >> very rarely left in the middle of doing something without speech whereas on >> Windows it was and still is a frequent occurrence. I feel much more in >> control on my Mac. >> >> Andrew >>> On 1 Apr 2014, at 20:21, Kristeen Hughes <khwi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Jenine, I can basically echo what you say. I was a windows user from the >>> windows 95 os. In fact, I worked for Microsoft for three years and so had >>> to believe in something that provided me with my bread and butter, and of >>> course, chocolate. (grin) However, I could crash any windows system with >>> great ease. Some of it is the OS itself, which, although it is better in >>> versions 7 and 8, still has more crashing issues than Mac. Some of it, >>> probably most of it, is due to the fact the the screen reading software is >>> separate from the os. this has always caused instability and i don't see >>> that changing any time soon. >>> >>> When it comes to iOS, there's no contest in my oppinion. Talks and Mobile >>> speaks and anything else is just so much more fickle than is the iOS. I, >>> and lots of people i know, struggled constantly with crashes and lock-ups >>> and having to turn the phone on and off a great number of times even in a >>> day. >>> >>> I am very happy with both mac os and ios platforms andwould not want to >>> give them up. >>> >>> . on apr 1, 2014, at 2:26 pm, jenine stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> this is an interesting question. from just an average user point of view, i >>> have been using my macbook pro since early february and use a windows >>> laptop for work. they literally sit side by side on my desk. >>> >>> i had used the iphone since 2011 so was sort of familiar with how voiceover >>> works and love it on the ios platform that said, it's very different on the >>> mac or os side. >>> >>> speaking first to stability, i managed to crash the mbp twice in the first >>> week but literally have not made the speech stop since then. has my mbp >>> slowed down or acted strangely a few times without explanation? yes, but >>> it's come back to its original performance soon after these fits. >>> >>> my windows machine frequently hangs up both in the operating system in >>> general and because of screen reader/video issues. outlook is really bad >>> about this and i usually have to reboot at least once a day. yes, i >>> maintain my windows machine well with weekly cleaning and such but ... >>> >>> the one thing that you will find difficult at first but which, if you >>> continue to plug away at it will soon become second nature, is the whole >>> concept of interacting with things. i hated it at first and still am not >>> fond of it. unlike the ios realm, you have to take an extra step to access >>> some things using voice over. once you get used to it though and combine >>> quick nav with the regular vo operation, and ask this list a ton of stupid >>> questions, :) you'll be fine. >>> >>> i really like the variety of quality voices available with vo too. it's >>> fast and responsive. i'm sold. be sure though to give yourself some time >>> and be patient. beprepared to read over and over any and all instructions, >>> podcasts and other things about switching, commands and apps. >>> jenine stanley >>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> on apr 1, 2014, at 2:14 pm, scott rumery <blindfait...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> hello scott, >>> >>> you will probably get a lot of varying opinions on this topic so you will >>> have to decide which ones you will take seriously or not. having said this >>> let me first tell you that ever since i switched to using a mac more than 3 >>> years ago i have become probably one of the biggest apple fan boys that >>> there is, so my thoughts on this subject are going to have a strong apple >>> bias to them. >>> >>> if you are wanting a computing environment that is very stable compared >>> to what you are currently getting on the windows platform then in my >>> opinion you would be very happy with a mac. >>> >>> the instability of my windows computer is exactly what helped me to make >>> the decision to make the switch over 3 years ago. >>> >>> i used to have to restart my windows computer several times a day and now >>> that i am on a mac i hardly ever need to reboot. >>> >>> you will notice that i said "hardly." i have had to restart my mac once in >>> a while due to lost speech or something, but as i stated with the use the >>> word hardly this does not happen with any regularity. >>> >>> now having said all of this let me give you a little word of caution about >>> switching platforms. i teach blind people who make this switch how to use >>> their macs for a company called fedora outlier, llc and one the biggest >>> mistakes that people make is thinking that switching from a windows >>> computer over to a mac computer is going to be easy. >>> >>> it isn't as easy as one might think. after all you are going to have to >>> learn how to use a totally different operating system and a new and >>> different screen reader. >>> >>> now having said this if you are determined to learn the new platform and >>> you do it correctly by this i mean that you don't try and learn everything >>> in one day you can definitely learn how to use a mac very quickly. >>> >>> one more thing. in response to your question as to whether or not a mac is >>> more stable than a windows computer. remember earlier when i said that when >>> i was still using a windows computer i would have to restart the computer >>> several times a day, well with my current mac which is 2012 mac book pro >>> with 4 gigabytes of ram i haven't had to restart it in about 2 weeks. my >>> mac is on 24 hours a day. during the day when i am working i am actually >>> using it, and at night the mac will just sleep, but it hasn't been turned >>> off in at least 2 weeks now and voiceover is running flawlessly . >>> >>> i hope that all of this helps you with your decision and if you need >>> anything else please just ask. >>> >>> have a great day, >>> >>> scott rumery >>> on apr 1, 2014, at 11:44 am, scott duck <scottduck1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> hi everyone, >>> >>> as i said previously, i am thinking about getting a mac and the main reason >>> is that i am tired of the increasing instability of the pc environment. my >>> first question is, is this really different on a mac? >>> >>> i am using jaws 15 with windows 8. both are not all that stable. i have >>> been a jaws user for 17 years and i have noticed a definite progressive >>> increase in instability with the last few releases. jaws crashes >>> frequently and, even if it doesn't crash, it often stops talking when >>> errors occur with other applications. then, there's windows 8. i don't >>> mind the windows 8 interface but several times per week, i will have a >>> problem that requires me to restart my computer. i did not have that >>> nearly as much with windows 7. also, it isn't unusual for me to install a >>> program which will, either directly or through add ins, make windows and/or >>> jaws more unstable. i then have to decide rather the additional >>> functionality is worth the increased instability. i'm just tired of all >>> the crashes and reboots and having to use three or four screen readers >>> because i have to run one when another one crashes. >>> >>> by contrast, my iphone and ipad, while not perfect, are certainly more >>> stable. voiceover seldom just stops working. of course, every single app >>> is not accessible and they do not all work correctly but any problems with >>> an app are almost always confined only to that app. when an app crashes, >>> it usually does not also cause voiceover or the device to crash. is this >>> also true of the mac? >>> >>> i have certainly used technology enough to know that none of it is perfect. >>> however, i would like something that is better than the pc, when it comes >>> to stability. over all, in your experience, is the mac more stable? >>> >>> thanks, >>> scott duck >>> >>> -- >>> you received this message 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