The first one. A forum had five responses on it, and my web spot was on the heading after the last response. Then the forum got a new response, making it six. My web spot moved to that sixth response, which is where the heading used to be. One more update and my web spot was completely gone. On Apr 19, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Cara Quinn <caraqu...@caraquinn.com> wrote:
> HI Alex, > > Webspots do not work the same way as hotspots. Webspots are accessible by VO > even when they are off-screen. > > However, if the element that the webspot refers to is no longer present on > the page, I'm not sure the webspot would still be present. Are you saying > that your webspot arbitrarily moved from an element you set it on, to one you > did not when the webpage changed? > > -Or are you saying that the page changed and the previous webspot and page > element were still there? > > Thanks, > > Cara :) > --- > iOS design and development - LookTel.com > --- > View my Online Portfolio at: > > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > Follow me on Twitter! > > https://twitter.com/ModelCara > > On Apr 18, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: > > I guess that makes sense, but as you said, it is a really odd approach to > take for a visually impaired audience. Do Web Spots work the same way? I set > one on a forum, and when a new post came in, the spot stayed put, meaning > that, as the page was now longer, the spot had moved up the page. The next > update caused the spot to vanish entirely. This is rather disappointing, as > I, and probably most people, expect a bookmark-like feature to stick to the > bit of the page we put it on and not the visual location. > On Apr 17, 2014, at 11:51 PM, Cara Quinn <caraqu...@caraquinn.com> wrote: > >> Hi Alex, >> >> I believe you may be seeing an issue where the heading you marked is no >> longer visible. >> >> When a hotspot moves out of the visible screen area or somehow becomes >> invisible, VoiceOver can no longer move to it. >> >> So no, hotspots are not broken. One just needs to understand that these are >> based on visual screen layout. Arguably this may not be the best or easiest >> approach for the average blind / visually impaired user, but this is what we >> have for the moment. >> >> Perhaps a spoken message letting the user know that the particular hotspot >> has moved out of visual range may be in order. >> >> Hope this helps and have a great night! >> >> Smiles, >> >> Cara :) >> --- >> iOS design and development - LookTel.com >> --- >> View my Online Portfolio at: >> >> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn >> >> Follow me on Twitter! >> >> https://twitter.com/ModelCara >> >> On Apr 17, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> I am working on a Safari article for new Mac users, and I thought I'd cover >> hotspots and web spots. Now, though, I don't know if I should. Here's what i >> did to try out hotspots: >> >> 1. I went to an open page in Safari, navigated to a heading partway down it, >> and pressed vo-shift-1. >> 2. I hit vo-left a few times, then vo-1, and was taken to my spot. Great. >> 3. I moved to the top of the page, tabbed a couple times, and hit vo-1. >> Nothing at all happened. >> 4. I pressed vo-1 again, chose my spot from the Hotspots menu, and nothing >> happened. >> 5. I hit vo-cmd-1, and was told the hotspot no longer exists. >> >> Did I do it wrong? I try hotspots every so often, and each time I remember >> why I never use them... I'd love to know I'm wrong and that they work great, >> but they seem like a broken and neglected feature to me. Thanks for any >> input. >> >> I did try Web Spots, and they didn't break immediately. However, I really >> like that hotspots are associated with numbers; web spots require you to >> move through a list sequentially, right? Are there major problems with web >> spots as well, or do they work reliably? >> >> -- >> Have a great day, >> Alex Hall >> mehg...@icloud.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex Hall > mehg...@icloud.com > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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