I agree, but political entities, whether they are governments, political parties, or the NFB don't tend to admit to their mistakes. Unfortunate, but true. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kaare dehard" <kaare.deh...@gmail.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:54 PM Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB
I think your right rich, however, their attempt to do this is rather sad since it would be easier to just admit that they are human like the rest of us, that an error was made, and then not repeat this. That certainly would have gone some ways to repairing damaged credibility. On 2009-09-30, at 7:14 PM, Rich Ring wrote: > > I believe that what you're seeing here is that they're trying to > make up for > the grave error they made with the Mac without in fact quite > admitting they > were wrong. You have to read between the lines a bit, but this is > what I > firmly believe. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ben mustill-rose" <bmustillr...@gmail.com> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 6:34 PM > Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB > > > > I do find it rather funny that they slammed a program that ran on a > device with a full sized qwerty keyboard yet there all over the iphone > with its touch screen. > > O well - step in the right direction anyway. > > On 26/09/2009, Kevin Gibbs <kevj...@gmail.com> wrote: >> You have to ask the sighted friend to turn it on in preferences, I >> think. >> K. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Philippe >> Rykiel >> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:30 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB >> >> >> Dear Chris, >> a friend of mine has one of these. Can you simply tell me how to >> turn v o >> on >> and off on his device so I can give it a try. >> Cheers, >> JPR >> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Chris Blouch <mailto:cblo...@aol.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:05 AM >> Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB >> >> It's called voiceover and as something that makes a device >> accessible via >> speech and controls, it is voiceover, but with a different voice (not >> Alex) >> and a phone-specific set of gestures instead of keyboard controls. >> That >> said, it's included on every iPhone 3GS and the newer iPod Touch. >> Previous >> models didn't have the hardware performance to run this so there is >> no >> upgrade to get VO on the older devices. >> >> CB >> >> Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: >> >> Sorry for a very down-to-earth question, but does the IPhone come >> with V O >> as well? >> JPR >> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Chris Blouch <mailto:cblo...@aol.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:48 PM >> Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB >> >> >> Some have difficulty comprehending what is new and, by definition, >> not >> well understood. So they define the new in terms of what's known from >> the past, but when something is a revolution rather than an evolution >> the comparisons fail. Some will lodge those failures as the fault of >> what was being measured and dismiss it as being flawed. Others, more >> rarely, will correctly realize that the measurement framework has >> failed >> and reevaluate their worldview. The NFB has been measuring sharks >> for a >> long while and Apple brought in an leopard. It will take time for the >> definition of 'good' to be redefined. >> >> CB >> >> william lomas wrote: >>> they can soon praise the iPhone yet slam the mac? >>> hyppocrits >>> >>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > > > -- > Kind regards, BEN. > > email: bmustillr...@gmail.com > msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com > web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
