Cheryl,

No problem.  In short, the interface works, but the text display is blank as 
far as VoiceOver can see.  And, I did verify with my sighted wife that, indeed, 
the bible is visually present on the screen.  As I recall, VoiceOver reports 
"Eloquent has no windows."

Also, as I stated in my previous MSG, I sent two emails to the developer 
reporting the situation.  Again, keep in mind, this only happened after 
installing Mavericks.  Upto that point, everything was fine.  I even upgraded 
to a later version of Eloquent a bit later, 4.2 I think, & still no joy.  So, @ 
this point I remain sad but hopeful that the situation will be resolved @ a 
later date.

Hope this answered your questions,

CJ


On Sep 14, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cah4...@icloud.com> wrote:

> Yes, I did know about the change to eloquence and as I recall keith did too. 
> Can you be more specific about what doesn't work with voiceover? Does nothing 
> read at all or what happens?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 14, 2014, at 6:33 PM, CJ Daniel <cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Keith,
>> 
>> Sadly, the info I can share is not good.  MacSword, as found by your friend, 
>> is out of date.  In fact, it changed it's name to Eloquent some time ago & 
>> was viable until Mavericks.  However, with the release of Mavericks, it 
>> no-longer works with VoiceOver.  I have tried to contact the developer 
>> several times, but received no reply.
>> 
>> To my knowledge, no other applications for the Mac are completely accessible 
>> & only a few even have limited accessibility.  It's sad, but it just doesn't 
>> seem to be a priority for any of the companies out there.  Well, that was 
>> the feeling I got after contacting some of them.  I wish you luck & hope 
>> someone will chime in here & bring an app to our attention that has been 
>> previously over looked.
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> 
>> CJ
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 14, 2014, at 1:21 AM, Keith Hinton <keithint1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello folks,
>>> I'm doing some bible studdy training programs and need an accessible bible.
>>> (Not web based) if at all possible.
>>> I'd prefer ot run an application.
>>> My teacher who is training me found a program called Mac Sword, but
>>> I'm wondering if there are other applications out there for the Mac?
>>> Would appreciate any input from anybody who has updated info on this topic.
>>> Mike did some podcasts years ago for Blind Cool Tech, but I consider
>>> them outdated now, and need current details from anybody who may have
>>> htem.
>>> Thanks.
>>> All the best.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> Keith
>>> Website:
>>> http://eshop.keithnet.us
>>> Home Phone:
>>> 928-554-3936
>>> Mobile Phone:
>>> 928-713-6370
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