>  good evening, it is unfortunate that Microsoft has not felt it necessary to 
> include all line people not just some blind people. So until this excuse for 
> software comes at two 2015 the incident of 1980 software. I won’t be 
> bothering. Period and that these people hired inaccessibility person, they 
> obviously didn’t keep them around long enough to do anything good. This is 
> just par for course for Microsoft I hope they’re not planning on getting a 
> lien contracts with any entity of government from the local clinic to the 
> federal government because this wouldn’t even meet even minimum accessibility 
> requirements.

Sincerely Maurice mines.
note the text of this email that I have written has been dictated by using 
Dragon 4.0 for the Mac, any errors in the text of this email are the result of 
either the software or the dictation process.
> On Mar 12, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Partial sight should be just fine with Office.  It’s the absence of hooks for 
> VO to latch onto in the editable area of the Document pane that makes it 
> inaccessible to a VoiceOver user.  If a developer uses custom elements in 
> their design, without some major accessibility hooks programmed in, we’re 
> lost.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 12, 2015, at 16:40, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> I remember running a Windows lap top and it was always crashing.  However 
> although i haven't got Windows on my Mac and when I did have, it was much 
> better.
> 
> I remember on this list, there was someone who said they were working for 
> Microsoft and she or he were going to look at the Mac to figure out how to 
> Make Microsoft Office accessible for the Mac.  I remember how much people 
> questioned her or his commitment as she/he was adamant that Microsoft would 
> be coming to the Mac.  So never believe what anyone says unless it really 
> happens.  I so want an accessible Microsoft application to come to the Mac.
> 
> I have heard though, that someone who has partial sight can use word on the 
> Mac.  Is this true?  A colleague's husband has a Mac and he is using 
> Microsoft Office so his wife says and when I said it could not be used with 
> Voice Over, she got in to a strop with me as she said her husband was using 
> Office applications.
> 
> Kawal.
> On 12 Mar 2015, at 20:47, Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> If I could just figure out what's bugging the Win 8.0 installer through 
> BootCamp, I would be a happy camper. I agree with Tim and George that Windows 
> runs quicker and more efficient on my MacBook Air. Just a little hip cup that 
> I'm running into now. Hopefully, I'll find the answer soon. 
> 
> Best,
> Eileen  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2015, at 8:36 AM, george b <gbma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Tim I agree
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 08:11
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Office for Mac 2016 Preview
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Not that I have a lot of personal experience with running Windows on the 
>> Mac, but, from most things I’ve heard, Windows actually runs better, faster 
>> and remains cleaner on a Mac than it does on a little cheap laptop that you 
>> might get.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 12, 2015, at 08:53, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guys. 
>> I realize this is some extra money, but if I ever have to run Windows 
>> because I really need a program I can’t get on the Mac, I have thought that 
>> I would just spring for a little Windows laptop. I know you can put windows 
>> on the Mac, but I have read a little about what some of you have done, and I 
>> think that if ever have to do it, I would rather have a separate system 
>> running the Windows program. I still have JAWS, and I could just update it. 
>> The Mac and Windows computers can read files produced on the other one, so I 
>> see no real advantage to mixing the systems. Maybe I am wrong about that, 
>> but at this point, I’m going to stick with iWorks. 
>> 
>> Gigi 
>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misr...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi John,
>>> 
>>> I have thought about that logic too because of the ability to obtain 
>>> Window-Eyes for free if one has a copy of either Office 2010 or 2013. Let's 
>>> see how this will pan out when the full version is release. However, I'm 
>>> not holding out that this minor inconvenience of not accessing the edit 
>>> field in word will be fix. :) It would be nice not to have to put Windows 
>>> on my Air in either BootCamp or in VM Ware. Take Care.
>>> 
>>> Eileen
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 12, 2015, at 7:03 AM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Nope. Microsoft did it again. They deliberately made all of the content 
>>>> areas inaccessible. It can only be deliberate because this is how it was 
>>>> in the last version and they got plenty of feedback from users. So, you 
>>>> have to wonder if their is an altereor motive here at work, especially as 
>>>> the iOS version is accessible.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Take Care
>>>> 
>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>> Director
>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>> 
>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 
>>>> Mountain Lion
>>>> 
>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>> 
>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:38 AM, 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello to the list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have just now downloaded and installed this Microsoft office for mac 
>>>>> 2016  preview,  and what a bitter disappointment this is so far.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Voiceover does not seem to read any of the text in my preliminary try out 
>>>>> of the Microsoft Word application, everything else seems to read just 
>>>>> fine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know it’s an early preview, but it’s still shocking and truly hideous 
>>>>> if Voiceover will not work with 2016 Office for mac.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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