Hi Christopher. I think it depends on the hearing loss. I've worked with people 
for example with a hearing loss who find Alex unintelligible once you go a 
little above the default rate, but who can have compact Daniel cranked up 
remarkably fast.
Personally I'd be delighted to have Eloquence on my Mac because Alex 
mispronounces far too much for my liking. The moral of the story is the more 
choice of TTS a screen reader company can offer, the better. Speech is 
extremely subjective.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 11/06/2015, at 6:28 am, christopher hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Might be coming next year <grin>. Seriously though, I don't ever want Apple 
> to remove Alex. He's fantastic for someone with moderately severe to profound 
> hearing loss which I have. The other voices included are fine, but doesn't 
> cut it like Alex.
>> On 10 Jun 2015, at 18:46, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ray. I don't really want Apple to get rid of Alex. I lve the fact that he 
>> takes breaths and everything. I am with you on one thing though, I hope 
>> Apple considers making the Siri voices available in El Capitan. After all, 
>> you can get them for NVDA in Windows so why can't it be done on the Mac?
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent from my White MacBook
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Subject line pretty much says it all.  Nothing against Alex mind you:  but, 
>>> frankly, I reckon it's high time Apple adopted a new and much more updated 
>>> default voice.  The new Siri male US English voice might perhaps be a good 
>>> choice.  Here's hoping we see this one in Elcapitan.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> 
>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac,
>>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>>> 
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