Hi, I agree with Shawn. I've not been a fan of Eloquence ever primarily due to how it sounds. But, to each their own.
Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 11, 2015, at 14:11, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote: Hi. The thing I have against Eloquence and even ESpeak is because they are too robotic sounding. Actually, one of the reasons why I moved to the Mac back in 2010 is because of Alex. When a friend of mine showed me how he took breaths when he reads and when watching Youtube videos with him on them, I was impressed with the way he sounded. Bottom line is, I moved to the Mac to get away from all robotic voices. Now I'm using Sharon from Acapela who I think is the best US English voice they made. In my opinion, like it or not, human natural voices are the future for us so I don't think Eloquence or eSpeak will ever come on to the Mac, especially if what that other poster said is true that Eloquence is discontinued. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook > On Jun 11, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Jonathan, > > I totally totally agree with you! If we could get Eloquence on the mac, that > would probably be the happiest day of my life! I am one of those who falls > into the category you mentioned regarding Alex. I can use him, but I have to > keep it at the default speaking rate, and even then, with my hearing loss, I > have to pay fairly close attention. Especially if I'm reading say, an entire > paragraph or whatever in one chunk. Again, I can do it, but it's not easy. > > I don't honestly know what so many people have against Eloquence. Even the > Vocalizer voices I can't seem to really understand terribly well. I can do > it, as I said, but not easily. I can't ramp Eloquence up very fast, but I > definitely have it slightly faster than the default both on my JAWS and my > Window-eyes. > > I know that Eloquence is also available for NVDA, but not legally, so there > went that idea. > > I know there is a port for Eloquence done by Tylor Spivy of Eloquence that > works on the mac, but it's a bit tricky to get it working, and is incredibly > incredibly unstable. I used it just long enough to see if it really actually > worked, but obviously took it off, 1, when I saw how unstable it was, and 2, > due to the fact it's also illegal. Even had it worked flawlessly, I couldn't > have kept it in good concience. > > I agree though, if there was a way to buy a mac ported stable mind you, > license for Eloquence, for OSX, I'd do it faster than a blink of an eye! Darn > straight I would! It's really about the only synth I can not only > understand, but comfortably can listen to on and on for hours at a time. > > Chris. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries" > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:17 PM > Subject: Re: time for Apple to get a new default voice > > > Well I use Fiona Compact and have it as fast as I can and love it. but > each to there own. > > On 10/06/2015 20:16, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >> Hi Christopher. I think it depends on the hearing loss. I've worked with >> people for example with a hearing loss who find Alex unintelligible once you >> go a little above the default rate, but who can have compact Daniel cranked >> up remarkably fast. >> Personally I'd be delighted to have Eloquence on my Mac because Alex >> mispronounces far too much for my liking. The moral of the story is the more >> choice of TTS a screen reader company can offer, the better. Speech is >> extremely subjective. >> Jonathan Mosen >> Mosen Consulting >> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >> http://Mosen.org >> >>> On 11/06/2015, at 6:28 am, christopher hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Might be coming next year <grin>. Seriously though, I don't ever want Apple >>> to remove Alex. He's fantastic for someone with moderately severe to >>> profound hearing loss which I have. The other voices included are fine, but >>> doesn't cut it like Alex. >>>> On 10 Jun 2015, at 18:46, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ray. I don't really want Apple to get rid of Alex. I lve the fact that >>>> he takes breaths and everything. I am with you on one thing though, I hope >>>> Apple considers making the Siri voices available in El Capitan. After all, >>>> you can get them for NVDA in Windows so why can't it be done on the Mac? >>>> >>>> Shawn >>>> Sent from my White MacBook >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Subject line pretty much says it all. Nothing against Alex mind you: >>>>> but, frankly, I reckon it's high time Apple adopted a new and much more >>>>> updated default voice. The new Siri male US English voice might perhaps >>>>> be a good choice. Here's hoping we see this one in Elcapitan. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray >>>>> >>>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my Mac, >>>>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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