I agree 100%. Actually I feel this attack never should a started in the first place! I said I was sorry. Honestly, yall should a dropped it at that point.

With all due respect, I'm in agreement here with this poster.

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaveinthran Pulanthran" <kavein2...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: apple beta discussion group created!


I think we should stop this, as this is not apple related, please have
your personal controversies offlist,

On 8/2/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
And, that's my problem that you don't believe it, why?

I can't force you to accept my apology, nor will I try. I said I was sorry,

but if you don't wanna believe it, then so be it! I'm not going to continue

arguing this.

I said what I said. Either believe it, or don't, but don't keep beating the

dead horse in its nuts!

Chris.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aleeha Dudley" <blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: apple beta discussion group created!


Your problem is that you're always like that. You get your snarky message
out, and then you apologize afterwards, like you mean it. I have trouble
believing that you actually mean it. Like your last message, berating me,
you just seem to say things in a mean way and not care. So yes, I read your

email, but I'm not sure I believe it.

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 2, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:

I frankly know you haven't done anything wrong, and that's why I
apologised. You took the quote, but, part totally out of context. I said

what I said, and had you actually taken the time to read my message, you'd

a known that. Just for the record, I said I was sorry for coming across so

rudely. I totally agree initially that I over reacted in how I presented

my original question.  This said however, I'm not sorry for the question
itself. That's all I meant by the but thing. I'm sorry for how I treated

you, but not for my initial question. Is that too hard for you to grasp?

Look, you created a list. I don't agree with it, I think you're violating

the NDA, I've never once seen where it says you can discuss it publicly or

with other testers outside the community forums, and each time I challenge

any of you to show me where it says that, you say go read the terms.  I
have done so time after time after time and don't see any reference, and
none of you ever take me up on my challenge, and show me word per word
where it says this is ok. The point is, you obviously don't like me, you

don't appreciate me, so why do you keep writing me!  If I really am a
troll as you say, then grow up, move on, leave me alone, and quit getting

the last word for Christ sake! I said initially I was sorry, but then you

had to come back with your remark that I went against what I said
initially, which you damn well know isn't true!

If you don't want to hear my comments, then block me, as frankly, I'm
tired of the bullshit! I made one? comment, is it really worth this much

list drama that you guys are producing?  Get over it!  Move on!  The fat
lady sang!

You all keep complaining about me, and saying just ignore me.  If you
wanna be mature, then practice what you preach!

Chris.

OK, now, rant aside, back to Apple! related things for pete sakes!

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Aleeha Dudley"
<blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: apple beta discussion group created!


You know what? I was being fairly nice to you, given your treatment of me.

But, as someone mentioned earlier, your apology isn't really one, because

you place the word but after it. Which means you were completely
disregarding everything you just said. And I don't care to be treated like

this. I've not done anything wrong, and you need to shut your mouth.

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 2, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Who's really the troll here?  I made one! Literally! One? comment, and
you idiots blew it outta perportion!

I'm sorry that you don't agree with my way of thinking, but I apologized

for my little outburst this morning!  You know what though, as rude as
you all're being in return, I wonder if my apology should have been made

to start with! Frankly, E T is right! There isn't a need, as frankly, no

longer am! I sorry!  If you all wanna list to break the Apple terms of
service, go for it!  But be sure to ban me while you're at it, as
frankly, I have no intrest in joining a group consisting of bed-wetting
children/whiners!

You hear something you don't like, and you immediately then initiate the

chinwag of, he's a dick, he's a troll, etc. etc.

It takes one to know one!  That's all I'll say.

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Aleeha Dudley"
<blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: apple beta discussion group created!


And now we are feeding patrol. Let's all just shut up and deal with it.

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 2, 2015, at 10:43 AM, Shaf <shafpa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Just ignore him. He's generally a dick where a lot of things are
concerned. Don't take it personally.

On 8/2/2015 1:02 PM, Aleeha Dudley wrote:
I really don't appreciate your attitude sir. It is not called for in
the least and I really don't need that kind of negativity. You need to

mind your own business and let others do what they are going to do. I
just don't appreciate that garbage from you. Asking questions is one
thing. Publicly being rude and nasty to me is something that I will not

tolerate.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 2, 2015, at 3:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Aleeha wrote:

In order to join this group, you must be running at
least one of the betas.

And... you are going to verify that the person saying they're running

the betas isn't bullshitting you... um... how?

Let's see, I'm running 8.4, but I'll tell you I'm running 9 beta just

so I can get on. Are you gonna call the Apple police to find out if I

really am? on 9?

Chris.
Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" <challswor...@icloud.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 2:56 AM
Subject: Re: apple beta discussion group created!


Hi is it ok to share this information with my Tech Zone list?

On 02/08/2015 04:39, Aleeha Dudley wrote:
Hello,
I have created a Google group for the discussion of iOS and OS10
public betas. In order to join this group, you must be running at
least one of the betas. To join, please send an email to
apple-beta-discussion+subscr...@googlegroups.com.
This group will be moderated by myself and Matt Dierckens.
Please send us an email with any questions you might have. My email

is
blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com and Matt's is matt.dierck...@me.com.
Happy beta testing and we will see you on the group!

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