Wow, Esther, that's amazing!  Is there anything about the Mac that you  
don't know?
Best,
Donna :)
On Nov 7, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Anouk,
>
> Yes, you can make yourself an Automator workflow to convert any text  
> documents to mp3 files on the Mac.  The only tricky thing about  
> using regular text to speech to translate the documents is getting  
> the voice to speak at a faster rate.  You can control this by  
> putting a sequence that specifies the speaking rate at the beginning  
> of your text file like this:
> [[rate 300]]
>
> (You need to read this character by character:  two left brackets  
> followed by the word "rate" followed by a space and then the number  
> of words per minute  --- here "300" --- followed by two right square  
> brackets)
>
> • Apple has a demo Automator workflow that converts text from your  
> clipboard to an audio clip in iTunes. You could download this and  
> modify it to work with a selected TextEdit file instead of the  
> clipboard, and you could change the setting from AAC encoding to  
> mp3.   The Apple URL is:
>
> http://automator.us/leopard/examples/ex07/index.html
>
> and you can get the workflow from the page's download link.  It's  
> actually easier to check the components out under Automator. It's  
> made up of 4 steps:
>
> 1. Get Contents from Clipboard
> 2. Text to Audio File
> 3. Import Audio Files
> 4. Add Songs to Playlist
>
> You can hear these listed if you VO-right to the Workflow area of  
> Automator, interact, and VO-down arrow through the list once you've  
> downloaded it.
>
> To run this as is, download the workflow and open it.  Select some  
> text and copy to clipboard with Command-C.  Then do a Command-R to  
> run the workflow.  As it stands, the workflow creates an AAC file  
> called "Spoken Text" that it move into your iTunes library.  You can  
> change the format to MP3 by interacting with the "Import Audio  
> Files" action of the Workflow and VO-right to the popup button that  
> specifies using the "AAC encoder" and set this to "MP3 encoder".   
> The only warning for users who have never used iTunes before is that  
> you must have set up iTunes for MP3 encoding at least once, since  
> iTunes uses the last set of values for this in your preferences  
> file.  (This means that the AAC option should work for everyone, but  
> if you've never ripped a CD or converted another audio file to MP3  
> format in iTunes, there are no previous MP3 encoding settings for  
> the workflow to use.)
>
> What you really want to do is replace the "Get Contents from  
> Clipboard" action with "Get Contents of TextEdit Document", but this  
> is a little more complicated. If you interact with the "Text to  
> Audio" action of the workflow, you can select the voice to use on  
> the pop up button.  (This could be the voice in another language).
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> On Nov 7, 2009, at 07:35, anouk radix wrote:
>
>> Hi Esther, What I think would be nice about ghostreader is that you  
>> can for example translate books in text or pdf or html format into  
>> mp3 audio files using the voice you like, i am not sure if you can  
>> do this on the mac natively.
>> Greetings, Anouk
>> On Nov 7, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Esther wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Anouk,
>>>
>>> Visiovoice is designed for visually impaired individuals.  It was  
>>> an alternative solution that would work out of the box if you  
>>> wanted to run your Mac using French or Dutch voices in Tiger,  
>>> where starting up with VoiceOver required knowledge of English.   
>>> Visiovoice has a separate interface from VoiceOver and a different  
>>> pronunciation editor. You also have to separately purchase the  
>>> Infovox iVox voices for the languages Visiovoice supports.  It has  
>>> a number of other features for low vision users in terms of its  
>>> cursor magnification support, and it also has features such as  
>>> simply creating an audio file from text.  The main interest in  
>>> using Visiovoice was among VoiceOver users who wanted to work in  
>>> languages other than English.  I think that at one point, version  
>>> 1.2 supported Japanese using the DTalker voices.
>>>
>>> GhostReader is targeted as "convenience ware" for users who want  
>>> to have mail, web pages, and documents read to them with text-to- 
>>> speech on the Mac.  It is is not designed for visually impaired  
>>> individuals, though probably low-vision users would find it  
>>> convenient.  This application is relatively inexpensive (around  
>>> $39.95 list price for one language), and can only read documents,  
>>> web pages, pdf files, etc through the GhostReader interface.  It  
>>> comes with compressed versions of the Infovox iVox voices, but can  
>>> use any of the system voices. I looked at it as a low-price  
>>> alternative to getting the Infovox iVox voices.  (I happened to  
>>> find this on sale as a one-day new promotion at half price --  
>>> $19.95 vs. the then $149.95 price for the regular voices).  I was  
>>> slightly surprised that Anne was using this, since she has  
>>> Visiovoice, and since this application is not that convenient to  
>>> use without vision.  Also, I think anyone who wants to get non- 
>>> English voices for their Mac will want to use them for all  
>>> applications (with VoiceOver), and not just for selected reading  
>>> of web pages or PDF files and documents through the GhostReader  
>>> interface, since you don't have the same kind of detailed  
>>> navigation control that VoiceOver provides; GhostReader is better  
>>> for doing a straight read through.
>>>
>>> However, as an add-on (for $10), or as an application for low  
>>> vision users who use multiple languages, GhostReader can be a  
>>> great option.  They also sell it with multiple language (2, 3,  
>>> etc.) options, though a VoiceOver user would use the better  
>>> quality Infovox iVox voices that work system-wide. (The  
>>> GhostReader voice versions are like slightly lower quality mp3  
>>> renditions of an audio CD).  The two nice features of GhostReader  
>>> are: (1) an undocumented feature that lets you automatically  
>>> switch voices (and languages) when reading text and (2) the  
>>> feature (also in Visiovoice) to create and audio file from read  
>>> text.
>>>
>>> The way the voice/language switching works is by using the sequence:
>>> \vce=speaker=newspeaker\
>>> when I specify a French voice, e.g.
>>> \vce=speaker=julie\
>>> the text that follows gets pronounced with French intonation.   
>>> Changing to an English voice, e,g.
>>> \vce=speaker=heather\
>>> gives the text in English.  If you want to read through a dialog  
>>> with voices speaking multiple languages, this is great.  It only  
>>> works in GhostReader (not VisioVoice), and only with voices of the  
>>> same type.  So if you have only the lower quality ConvenienceWare  
>>> versions of voices that come with GhostReader for French, you can  
>>> only switch between that quality voice in French and English.   
>>> Since most VoiceOver users will get the better quality Infovox  
>>> iVox voices for system-wide use in all applications, they can  
>>> switch between all the higher quality Infovox iVox voices on their  
>>> system
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Esther
>>>
>>> anouk radix wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Anne, What is the difference between visiovoice and ghostreader?
>>>> Greetings, Anouk
>>>> On Nov 7, 2009, at 4:51 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Donna,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 7:25 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what do you use Ghost-reader for? I just can't seem to get  
>>>>>> excited
>>>>>> about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use it for converting text files such as scanned books into  
>>>>> audio files. I wouldn't actually have bought it since I already  
>>>>> have VisioVoice except that lots of French Mac users have  
>>>>> GhostReader and I felt I should know about it to help them with  
>>>>> it. After all, I have a French-language website for VI Mac users  
>>>>> so I feel some responsibility toward them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> >


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