well,
if you use dd and you set the input file to be the first device for the HDD in 
/dev (the root device for the drive), then *everything* should be copied bit 
for bit. No missing data, no corruptions. In this case, your root drive would 
probably be /dev/sda (with 1 thru x being the partitions in order).

here is what I use to backup my system: dd if=/dev/sda 
of=/Volumes/Media/backups/macHD.img

that copies the entirety of the primary boot drive (and all its partitions, 
boot records, etc.) into a single contiguous file. no muss, no fuss. I have 
room on my 2 TB external for at least 1 months worth of backups at one per 
week. Considering that the boot drive is only 256 GB, it leaves me a lot of 
room for other things (including storing backups of documents, installation 
files, and my talking book library. Not too shabby, eh?

-eric

On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:09 PM, Joe Quinn wrote:

> did i ask this before, i use dd, but then I'd still have same problem with 
> the corrupt partition issue, right? forgive the question if I asked it before.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> well, here is how the drive imaging works with Disk utility.
>> 
>> you can create a hard disk image, partition it and then copy the relevant 
>> files to it. mind you, this is not exactly a clone. I haven't tried this 
>> particular method myself, so I am not sure if it would work.
>> 
>> However, if you dd the entire device, all information (including boot 
>> record, partition map, drive allocation tables, volume bitmaps and 
>> everything else is preserved as a bit for bit image. with a large enough 
>> backup drive, you can store the entire image as a single file. This is the 
>> method I use and it works 100% of the time. THe other method (creating a 
>> disk image using DU) will not have the same results. you might miss some 
>> things like the MBR, partition tables and a few other needed items. now, I 
>> use dd as a matter of course simply because I don't have money to throw at a 
>> backup program that may, or may not, be entirely accessible for the totally 
>> blind user. it is also an included command line app that can be run in 
>> terminal from the recovery partition. SInce I can run this recovery 
>> partition from either a CD or a USB stick (properly configured), I don't 
>> have to worry about anything on the system drive that might accidentally get 
>> wiped (considering that I am wiping it anyway).
>> 
>> if you need more info on dd, you can read here: 
>> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/dd.1.html
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 6:31 AM, Joe Quinn wrote:
>>> 
>>> So if I Image my boot camp partition, then I deleted, reinstall it, and 
>>> then restore it, would it boot? I assume not because as you said it 
>>> wouldn't copy everything, only where there is data. I'm just confused. :-) 
>>> I should just come in and Match the start and  sectors of the partition 
>>> tables.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 12:41 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> that would work. you can create a sparse image of the drive as an image 
>>>> file on another volume. the beauty about this is that only those places 
>>>> that have data will be copied. ANything without data will simply be 
>>>> ignored (as a zero space allocation). THis generally only works if you 
>>>> create a sparse image volume to mimic a hard dis and then do a copy of all 
>>>> the files inside the partition. its not exactly a bit for bit backup, but 
>>>> it serves as a stopgap.
>>>> 
>>>> -eric
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Joe Quinn wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> there's an "image" function in disk utilitity. would that work or do 
>>>>> anything? it's in the tolbar with firstaid, restore, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I mentioned dd. Believe me, its a lot better than msbackup. the last 
>>>>>> time I used MS Backup, it missed a number of files in my user settings 
>>>>>> directory. so, these days, I backup the windows partition to an external 
>>>>>> drive as an image file. I do so once per week and only keep 2 
>>>>>> consecutive backups. THis way, I have the next most recent and the most 
>>>>>> recent backups on hand should something be amiss.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -eric
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 5:50 AM, - wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Someone mentioned "dd" as a backup utility in terminal.  Ditto and 
>>>>>>> rsync can perform the same function.  In google use "os10 backup" and 
>>>>>>> one of the names for tons of web sites for using them as backup.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Sep 2015, Joe Quinn wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What are some good back up programs that will back up my Mac OS X 
>>>>>>>> drive as well as the Boot Camp partition? I think I'm going to need 
>>>>>>>> it. :-)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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