are you sure the import went as it should?
On 10/3/2015 9:43 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
OK. Let me start by saying one positive thing.
El Capitan looks like it has the potential to be a great OS. This
being said, I'm at a position where even on my personal computers, not
just on my work audio production machine, I have made the decision to
go back to Yosemite, and not touch El Capitan with a 10 foot poll
until some of these issues I'm having are worked out. Below are all
the things so far I've observed. Again, realize that I am not
complaining. Over time, I'm sure a lot of this will get fixed, but at
least for the time being, this is ridiculous!
Busy Busy Busy!
This is the main bug which has caused me to say screw it! I'm going
back. No matter what voice I use, be it Alex, any of the Nuance
voices, Any of the Acapela TTS voices, whatever, practically every
single app I have tried is almost constantly reporting busy busy busy.
Finally when the app does! switch to ready status, it only stays there
for a fraction of a second, then goes busy again.
Can't Edit nor backspace text in Mail
This one's really aggervating. When typing an e-mail message, be it a
reply, a forward, or just totally from scratch, I can edit/backspace
text up to a certain point which I've not totally benchmarked, but
after a certain point, pressing the backspace key, or trying to move
around and edit my message doesn't work. Apparently, it works, but
Voiceover says absolutely nothing. When I try backspacing characters,
Voiceover is totally silent.
Message List Table in Mail is slightly Broken
I should start this one by saying that I'm using the classic view of
Mail. I'm not sure if that matters, but i somehow doubt it does. It
used to be that I could vo+right arrow to the messages group and
interact with it. Then, I could vo+right arrow to the message list
table. Then, without interacting at all, I could simply down arrow
through the list of messages. Not VO+Down arrow. I'm literally
saying just down arrow. The advantage of doing it this way was that I
wasn't interacting with the table, thereby making it where virtically,
it would only read one column at a time. This way each row would read
all columns at once. So right away, I knew who the message was from,
the subject, etc. Now, if I try doing this, just by down arrowing
when I reach the table, Voiceover says absolutely nothing. When I
press return on a message, it's not throwing me to the content of the
message. It's very inconsistent, so I can't really tell you where it
lands, as it seems to be kind a scatterbrained. Once I do! however
get on the area with the message content, regardless if I interact
with the text field and use vo+up and down arrow to read, or if I
don't interact at all, but just up and down arrow to read, Mail
usually goes completely busy and by busy, I don't mean Voiceover
saying busy. I mean it goes so busy to the point where literally
nothing! speaks. Trying to command+tab out of the Mail app sometimes
works, but usually Voiceover lags for a good 30 seconds to a full
minute before catching up. When it does! catch back up I notice in
the Mail app that I no longer have focus on the message content, as
it's jumped to some other random place like the message headers, etc.
Yes, to rimity these issues, I did try restarting Voiceover, and yes,
I've also fully tried rebooting.
ITunes 12.3, and ICloud Music Library
I am subscribed both to Apple Music, as well as to ITunes Match. I
have a CD which is *definitely!* not in the ITunes Store, nor in Apple
Music. I know this as it's by a local artist, and she herself has
told me directly that she's not on ITunes, nor has any intention to
be. Anyway, I manually tagged all the tracks with the correct name,
genre, an album title. I then imported the disc into my library with
my audio production system. That worked absolutely perfectly. Now,
mind you, that system is on Yosemite 10.10.5, but hear me out on
this. I was going to lay down tonight and listen to that disc, seeing
the CD is all lullabys. That mood was ruinned real! fast. I have
uploaded from my production machine, the entire CD to my ICloud
library. In my room, I went on my white polycarbon macbook, running
the official non beta release of El Capitan, and also running ITunes
12.3. Both that system, as well as my audio production machine here
in the studio have ICloud Music library enabled and set to be
viewable. When I pulled up ITunes on my macbook, I saw the album in
there by Renee Carter, but none of the tracks will play. I went to
the file menu, library, and update ICloud Music Library. This didn't
even work.
I'm not sure what I did, but finally, finally, finally! after middle
mucking with it for about 10 minutes, I managed to get one of the
tracks to play, but the track list table for that album seems,
according to Voiceover to keep refreshing. It's almost like it's
trying to download the album, but I know it's not, as each track has a
download button in the ICloud status column of the table. The weird
thing though is, at first, that download button on each track was
available. Now, all a sudden, it's becomed dimmed on all 20 tracks on
the disc. Further, under the album details group, the download button
for the whole album is also dimmed, whereas at first, it wasn't. Even
still though, the tracks won't play. I got that one track to play
maybe one time, but after that track finnhished playing, it wouldn't
play again, nor would any others. I looked to see where my music
library was being stored, in case it had changed, but it's not. It's
in the standard default:... ~/Music/ITunes. In there under ITunes
Media/Music, I don't see but one thing, which is a disc I ripped prior
to upgrading to El Capitan, and actually, even pryor to having Apple
Music or ITunes Match. That disc might be in ICloud, but I just know
this much. It's definitely locally on my macbook, as that's where I
initially imported it from its physical CD.
I should add that the Renee Carter disc which I initially mentioned I
was having issues with was not imported from files. I have the
physical CD media.
The Renee Carter disc is the only disc in my library be it local, or
in ICloud where the tracks are not seeming to play. They play fine on
my production machine where I actually ripped the disc, but then, over
there, I have the physical ripped files locally on my drive, so that's
probably why. All my other stuff plays on the macbook just fine,
regardless the source where I got the material, be it a CD, be it
purchased from ITunes directly, etc.
The other media aside the Renee Carter that does! play still has the
issue where the track list of the albums keep refreshing. I know this
as every few seconds, Voiceover pops me out of the track list table,
and says album grid. When I look, sure enough. I'm no longer
focussed in the album details, let alone on the track list table
itself. I looked, and nothing is in the LCD area saying things are
downloading, and to the right of the search field, there is no
activity popup. I've quit ITunes, and relaunched it. No good. I've
signed out and back in to my Apple ID. no good. I've disabled and
re-enabled ITunes Match. No good. I've disabled and re-enabled
showing Apple Music. NO good. I have disabled and re-enabled showing
of ICloud Music. NO good.
Short of literally ripping the disc on to that system, which I
certainly can do, don't get me wrong, I don't know how else to get
around this.
Anyway, these are the main things so far I've seen. I should add that
it's not just my white macbook having this issue. It's not a ram
issue either, as far as constantly getting busy messages. I know that
system has only 2 gigs of ram in it, but I also tried with my macbook
pro to run El Capitan. That thing's got 16 gigs of ram in it, so
there is no freaking way! that I have inadiquit ram. I also should
conclude by saying that yes. When I installed El Capitan, I didn't
install over the top of Yosemite. I did a clean fresh install,
literally totally wiping the partition, formatting, and starting
fresh. So that's not the problem either.
I'd be curious if any of you all have seen any of this stuff since
updating.
Fortunately, I have a Superduper backup of Yosemite, so rolling these
machines back will be very very seemless. It's just really irritating.
Chris.
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