Christine, do you not know that you have to interact with tables? I just followed your directions and on the table of course you get the box sound if you don't interact with it. I interacted with the table and was able to navigate all the files in the list view table
Sent from my IPhone > On Oct 9, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Christina C. <blindmaclo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hmm, let me try to explain better. :) > > I have quick Nav off and I am in list view in a finder window. > > I went to the sidebar and selected documents. Then I Vo right arrow and hear > vertical splitter. Then i VO right again and hear scroll area. Then I > interact with the “scroll area.” Then I hear “list view table, six items” and > when I try to vo down, like I used to, I hear the actual word “name” then I > VO down arrow because this sounds like a column header and I get a bonk. Then > if I VO right arrow I hear the other column headers for each time I VO right > until I get to the end, where I get a bonk. This has happened since Yosemite. > > Ok, now I feel extremely stupid. While I was slowly going through this > process to type out the issue in detail, I paid closer attention and noticed > after I interact with the scroll area the first thing I hear”list view table” > and so I interacted with it. I feel so dumb but I was then able to interact > with the table/list of files. I never used to have to interact so many times > in the past. I have been having this trouble for months and months and it was > all because I needed to interact an extra time. Plus, why does VO mention the > table first and then name off the column headers after the table? I think > that must be why I was so confused because in my head the column headers > would be spoken before the table itself. > > So, now I have another question, is this how it is for everyone else, or is > something still weird with my computer? Why did they change it so that I now > have to interact so many times. I don’t remember it being a scroll area > before but just a list view or table. What is the benefit of this? > > My apologies and thank you’s. If you all hadn’t asked me such good questions, > I never would have figured this out. It has been driving me mad for so long. > Thank you all. In conclusion, voice Over tracking is not broken. It just > appeared that way to me since I was too dense to figure out how to use this > finder window sooner. :) > > Christina . >> On Oct 9, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> Odd question, but this is an odd problem. :) Are you, in fact, in headers? >> Vo-shift-backslash will toggle them; perhaps you've enabled them somehow? >> Also, when you say that VO doesn't give more information, what do you mean? >> Column view, for instance, won't provide anything other than the name of the >> file or folder; might the one folder be in column view and you didn't >> notice? My music folder is stuck that way for some reason, though everywhere >> else uses list view with no problem. >>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 12:39, Christina C. <blindmaclo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> This only happens in Finder or finder like environments. For example, If I >>> am in text edit and I bring up the save document dialogue box, if I want to >>> choose a location other than the default to save my document, the voiceOver >>> cursor gets stuck. It’s very frustrating and I end up asking for sighted >>> assistance. :(I do not have any activities created. I make sure quick Nav >>> is turned off, and yes I have tried turning cursor tracking off and then on >>> again. Sometimes turning voice Over on and then off again works, but >>> sometimes it doesn’t work. :( I am at a loss and very frustrated. I also >>> deleted my fancy voices in case that was causing a problem. I’ve heard of >>> people resetting their voice Over settings and how that fixes some >>> problems. How do I do this and what kinds of problems might this cause? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Christina >>>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 8:31 PM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Does cursor tracking work anywhere else on the Mac question that is, is it >>>> only happening in finder? Do you have quick nav on? Have you tried >>>> toggling cursor tracking with VO plus shift plus F three? >>>> >>>> Sent from my IPhone >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Christina C. <blindmaclo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I am still on latest version of Yosemite. I have had this problem for >>>>> several months and it’s driving me bonkers. I have cursor tracking on and >>>>> I am using list view in Finder. I cannot get the voiceOver cursor to >>>>> enter the list of files. It stays stuck in the column headers. I can kind >>>>> of arrow around with just the arrow keys (not the VO left and right >>>>> arrows) in the file list but I can’t get any other information. It’s like >>>>> the voice Over curser will not follow the keyboard curser. I have tried >>>>> tabbing and everything else I can think of. Does anyone know a fix for >>>>> this? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Christina >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> Have a great day, >> Alex Hall >> mehg...@icloud.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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