Michael Marshall writes:
> hey,
> thanks for that command, so i type the word orka and - and then S?
Almost. I guess VO didn't pronounce the dash in that command.


Here's a bit more info ...

1.)     You need to wait awhile for the Fedora Live image to boot. From
a cdrom this takes longer than from a USB stick, but even less time if
running from an ISO file mount in a vm. You're waiting for the boot
process to complete, for the Login prompt to time out, and for the GNOME
desktop to finish loading. Unfortunately, there are no audio sing posts
along this path. So, just get a cup of coffee , or something.

2.)     The command Alt F2 is the command that brings up the GNOME
command prompt where you can type a command press enter to execute it.
Windows has such a thing, but I don't see where Mac has, but it's simply
a box where you get to type any command, just as though you were in a
terminal window.

        Now, there's a problem with this step. You need to have mapped
        Alt+F2 in your VMware, because you don't have an Alt key on the
        Mac. I would expect this is a familiar problem, though, because
        you have the same need when running Windows.

        3.)     With the command window open, you type

                o r c a space dash s

                        and press enter.

                        That brings up Orca in its setup screen where
                        you can adjust various screen reader related
                        things. If you're happy with the defaults, you
                        might do "orca -r" as in "restart" instead.

>From here it's a matter of knowing how to use Orca on the GNOME desktop.
It's not at all like the Mac or the Windows environment, so please don't
have expectations of a similar experience. My best advice is to not
worry about the desktop initially, and try some straight forward
application like the Firefox web browser to get an experience on Linux
that will be more familiar. How to bring up firefox? Your command box is
your friend. Do your Alt+F2 again, type "firefox" and press enter.

> what are the advantages of fiddora?

It's a robust, leading edge Linux distribution that's up to date, but
not too much out on the development edge. So, stuff supplied with Fedora
can be generally expected to work out of the box. That includes Orca and
the GNOME desktop, and that includes brltty. You'd need to work a little
harder to get Speakup for the console, because Speakup requires you run
special kernel modules.


If you want an out of the box experience with accessible Linux, you
probably want Vinux. What's your interest in Linux?

Janina

> > On 19 Jan 2016, at 8:53 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> > 
> > With Fedora, wait a little longer than you think necessary for the Live
> > image to boot, press Esc a few times, then do:
> > 
> > Alt+F2
> > 
> > and type
> > orca -s
> > 
> > Note you need the Live image.
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > 
> > Michael Marshall writes:
> >> i was going to play with fiddora but i could not get the screenreader 
> >> started at install.
> >> i was using work station.
> >>> On 18 Jan 2016, at 8:02 AM, matthew dyer <ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi,
> >>> 
> >>> I think kindle said he hopes to have it out in march when the new sonar 
> >>> image is do.  I am in the process of trying to download faddorra 23 work 
> >>> station so will see how it goes.
> >>> 
> >>> Matthew
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> On Jan 17, 2016, at 3:16 PM, Michael Marshall 
> >>>> <mightymaggie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> hey,
> >>>> are there much advantages of using sonar over say ubuntu mate witch 
> >>>> still uses the nome desktop?
> >>>> i hate the Unity system's.
> >>>> when will this new installer for sonar be usible?
> >>>> i can't even get to the point that you reach.
> >>>>> On 18 Jan 2016, at 4:05 AM, matthew dyer 
> >>>>> <ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Michael,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I do not have the problem you describe, but do the fact that the 
> >>>>> installer is not working the way it should I can not get through 
> >>>>> install process.  I for instance, can not activate the next button 
> >>>>> after causing english as the language.  It is a mess.  BTW, I joined 
> >>>>> the manjaro dev list to watch the development of manjaro and sonar and 
> >>>>> the new installer that sonar will be using is now working for the most 
> >>>>> part according to kindle clark.   Just wanted to pass that along to 
> >>>>> give you heads up.  
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Matthew
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Jan 17, 2016, at 7:32 AM, Michael Marshall 
> >>>>>> <mightymaggie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> hey,
> >>>>>> i am sorry i'm posting here but it's the only place i know of.
> >>>>>> it would not let me proceed, there is something about that ISO file 
> >>>>>> that Fusion absolutely hates.
> >>>>>> it knows that it is a linux disc but i can't get past that screen.
> >>>>>> i like ubuntu mate but still i want to have a play with this one.
> >>>>>>> On 17 Jan 2016, at 8:39 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> 
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> You don’t need to extract the files from a Linux ISO image to boot 
> >>>>>>> from the ISO.  Tell VMWare Fusion to simply install from disk or disk 
> >>>>>>> image during the setup of the VM.  It should then detect the OS, or 
> >>>>>>> something close to it, and allow you to proceed.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> I don’t use Sonar so I can’t help you with details of that particular 
> >>>>>>> flavour of Linux, and this isn’t really the right list for that.  
> >>>>>>> However, if it boots with sound, you should be golden at that point 
> >>>>>>> since the sound card is provided by VMWare and Linux has the driver.
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