The edge having up to 16 hours battery life and 7 days stand by is good to hear.

 Can firmware on the edge be updated if needed?

I believe it can be on the jawbone devices, at least an old jawbone device I 
had it could.

-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Wednesday, 27 January 2016 7:07 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Headphone bug still exists on the I phone.

Just to make sure you have all the information to make the most informed 
decision, as mark mentioned, there is a removable behind the ear loop included 
with the edge as well.  Both can be fastened to your ear securely.  Just so you 
have the full facts.

Thanks

> On Jan 26, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks. The legend it shall be. That behind the ear loop is a must-have in my 
> book.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>> 
>> The proprietary charging isn’t a big deal to me, Mark may wish to counter 
>> though as he felt more strongly about it.  It’s a regular USB port on one 
>> end and the other is a magnetic fit cable that cradles the base of the 
>> headset.  It works pretty well but it is non standard.
>> 
>> If you had the voyager it’s very similar.  The voyager pro is the preceding 
>> version to the legend if memory serves.  The legend is the current model and 
>> is available for about $60 or so on amazon which is much less than the $129 
>> retail price so definitely shop it around.
>> 
>> The Voyager Edge though as Mark mentioned is very good.  Try them 
>> both out and pick the winner for you.:)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Scott,
>>> Is the legend a current device? What I like about my old Voyager is that 
>>> behind that ear loop. It feels very secure. And I don't have to stuff the 
>>> tip into my ear. For me, that is a big deal. I'm not thrilled about the 
>>> proprietary charging, but maybe that case would make it worth it.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 7:00 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Only 18 headsets Mark, why so few?
>>>> 
>>>> :)
>>>> 
>>>> As someone who also changes headsets like they do clothes, I also like 
>>>> both of these head sets.  I however am the reverse of you and prefer the 
>>>> Legend over the edge and heres my thoughts, let me know if you think I’m 
>>>> nuts or not.
>>>> 
>>>> The noise cancelation on the legend is the best.  The edge is very good 
>>>> don’t misunderstand but the legend is just that little bit extra.  I have 
>>>> tested both in very high noise environments (data centers with powerful 
>>>> cooling and tens of thousands of nodes).  Both do well, the legend is a 
>>>> bit easier for the far end caller to hear in my experience and while both 
>>>> have excellent battery life the legend is a bit better and will give you 
>>>> in my experience a full work day.
>>>> The Edge is great for someone who wears glasses because you do not have to 
>>>> use the loop to wear it safely and comfortably.  However, the legend can 
>>>> fit behind your ear and while it’s more bulky glasses can be negotiated.
>>>> 
>>>> I would break them down this way.  The edge is the more stylish light 
>>>> weight version that you might wear to business meetings or out etc.  
>>>> Similar to the jawbone it’s very stylish and has a stylized shape etc.  If 
>>>> what you want though is a serious work horse that has the absolute best 
>>>> noise cancelation and is designed for use in harsh environments the legend 
>>>> is for you.  Bottom line though and I think Mark would agree both are 
>>>> great headsets.
>>>> 
>>>> I do like your point on the proprietary cable but I would point you at the 
>>>> excellent charging case you can get for the legend where using that magnet 
>>>> it fits nicely inside and gives you extra charges on the fly.  Also gives 
>>>> you a reset button so you can reset the hardware if needed which I haven’t 
>>>> had to yet.
>>>> 
>>>> Nice to see another headset enthusiast.  Honestly I have yet to find one 
>>>> that I would give 5 stars but I am very picky.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 3:52 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Simon,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Generally speaking, I recommend the Edge over the Legend.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Below I am going to paste in my original comments on the Edge along with 
>>>>> a cNet review of the product.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope you find it useful.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>> Original Post from Mark:
>>>>> Subject: I Strongly Recommend The Plantronics Voyager Edge 
>>>>> Bluetooth Single-Ear Headset
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> After all of the comments regarding the Voyager Legend headset, I decided 
>>>>> to purchase a new Bluetooth headset, also.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Because of a couple of things I don't like about the Legend, for example 
>>>>> the proprietary charging connection, I decided to go with the Voyager 
>>>>> Edge.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> I love this device.  It is absolutely the most comfortable and 
>>>>> responsive Bluetooth device I've owned, to date.  I have owned and 
>>>>> used no fewer than
>>>>> 18 Bluetooth headset devices since 2007.  The Edge builds on the Legend's 
>>>>> outstanding performance but returns to some industry standard protocols, 
>>>>> for example, the original charging cable connection.  Like the Legend, it 
>>>>> does have a hardware on and off button.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> What I really like about the Edge is that one can disable some of the 
>>>>> features of the device, for instance, the auto Answer/Reject prompts.  
>>>>> There have been many times when I was talking to someone when a call came 
>>>>> in and the headset, not a Plantronics, would automatically interpret my 
>>>>> last spoken word as answer.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Below I am pasting in a short cNet review of the Edge at the bottom of 
>>>>> which you will find the URL to the review, itself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please note that the review was written almost a year ago.  The reason I 
>>>>> mention this is that it states that the Edge cannot get 7 hours of talk 
>>>>> time, as can the Legend.  However, this is no longer true.  The unit I 
>>>>> just purchased gets over 7 hours of talk time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, the Edge now ships with an over-the-ear loop and soft ear-jell tips.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In short, I would strongly recommend anyone who is in the market for a 
>>>>> high performance blindness-friendly single-ear Bluetooth headset device 
>>>>> consider the Voyager Edge.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>> cNet Review:
>>>>> The Good The Plantronics Voyager Edge packs outstanding call quality and 
>>>>> noise cancellation. The headset is also light, comfortable to wear, and 
>>>>> compact for a boom-style device. The Edge comes with a handy battery case 
>>>>> for protection and charging on the go.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Bad The Voyager Edge's ear tips don't form a tight audio seal and 
>>>>> take some fiddling to position properly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Bottom Line The Plantronics Voyager Edge's impressive hands-free call 
>>>>> quality and sleek size makes it a smarter buy than the fashionable 
>>>>> Jawbone Era.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Equipped with support for multiple languages, aggressive noise 
>>>>> cancellation and a host of other advanced communication skills, the 
>>>>> $129.99 Voyager Edge represents Plantronics' latest stab at a high-tech 
>>>>> tool for mobile voice chat. It sits alongside the company's popular 
>>>>> Voyager Legend ($99.99), another premium hands-free product. 
>>>>> Additionally, the Edge replaces the Discovery 975SE which was crafted to 
>>>>> be as sleek as possible without sacrificing call quality.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Indeed despite it's compact size, the Edge uses the same 
>>>>> impressive audio system as its big brother the Voyager Legend. 
>>>>> This includes three discrete microphones and a boom arm to better 
>>>>> pick up the words you say. The result is sound transmission that's 
>>>>> equal to the Legend and cleaner than its chief competitor, the 
>>>>> bite-sized Jawbone Era 2014 ($129). Of course the Edge can't match 
>>>>> the Legend's 7-hour talk time or the Era's ultra-discreet de
>>>>> 
>>>>> Design
>>>>> Continuing where the 975SE left off, the fresh Voyager Edge has the same 
>>>>> distinctive diamond-shaped body. Relatively compact, the Edge sports a 
>>>>> long, thin boom, too, which houses its microphone array. It also relies 
>>>>> on a design that forgoes a bulky earloop, an approach the Legend and 
>>>>> Jabra Motion take. Even though the Edge is a lot smaller than these 
>>>>> gadgets, it's nowhere near as tiny as the bite-sized and recently 
>>>>> refreshed Jawbone Era. But while the Era lacks any physical controls save 
>>>>> for a power switch and multifunction button, the Voyager Edge sports a 
>>>>> real volume rocker and voice command key. Like the Era, the Edge uses a 
>>>>> standard Mini-USB port for charging up and interfacing with PCs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As for wearing the Voyager and overall ear fit, I find that the Jawbone 
>>>>> Era more comfortable than the Edge. That's because the Era's teardrop 
>>>>> silicone ear gel is much softer than the tough, rubbery sleeve around the 
>>>>> Edge's earbud. The Era also has a tighter seal and ultimately is more 
>>>>> stable, probably since its pliable and pointed ear gel actually enters 
>>>>> the ear canal. The result is I can really jam it in there. This is a huge 
>>>>> contrast to the Edge whose earbud is meant to sit outside and at the 
>>>>> entrance to the ear. Initially it felt less secure to me, but I admit I 
>>>>> prefer in-ear earphone styles. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Edge is trim and compact, yet makes room for physical buttons. 
>>>>> Sarah Tew/CNET
>>>>> 
>>>>> After fiddling with the Edge's ear tip for a spell, however, I was able 
>>>>> to find my personal sweet spot. Basically if I angled the ear tip's 
>>>>> stabilizer loop so that it hooked into the inner fold of my ear, then the 
>>>>> device stayed put. And because the headset became more stable using this 
>>>>> technique, its comfort and fit improved greatly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bluetooth abilities and other extras Supporting the Bluetooth 4.0 
>>>>> standard, the Voyager Edge packs in plenty of slick capabilities which 
>>>>> belie its slim profile. The device uses a group of three microphones 
>>>>> which work in unison to stamp out background noise and transmit your 
>>>>> voice cleanly to people on the other end of the call.
>>>>> Essentially it's the same hardware onboard the larger Voyager Legend, and 
>>>>> in theory trumps the noise-cancellation systems of the Jawbone Era and 
>>>>> older Discovery 975SE (both have dual mics).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Other tricks the Edge has in its tool belt are dual-capacitive sensors to 
>>>>> detect whether you're wearing it or not. Users can simply place the Edge 
>>>>> in their ear when a call comes in and the headset will automatically 
>>>>> answer.
>>>>> And because the device supports voice commands, you can also pick up 
>>>>> incoming calls by saying, "Answer." If English isn't your tongue of 
>>>>> choice, the Edge offers Spanish, French, Cantonese, and Mandarin as well. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.cnet.com/products/plantronics-voyager-edge-jet-black/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon 
>>>>> Fogarty
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:27 AM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: Headphone bug still exists on the I phone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> HI Mark,
>>>>> 
>>>>> You say you've got the Plantronics Voyager edge headset,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I see there are a a number of different models of the Plantronics Voyager 
>>>>> devices  There is the legend , the legend UC and the voyager legend CS 
>>>>> which I take it is more of a VOIP or PABx phone system device.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But there also appears to be multiple versions of the voyager 
>>>>> edge,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Which is the better device to buy and what the hecks the differnces?
>>>>> I couldn't see a lot with the legends, other than one had volume 
>>>>> controls and one didn't I'm just wondering which is the better 
>>>>> device to buy
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Simon F
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>>>> Sent: Monday, 25 January 2016 3:33 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: Headphone bug still exists on the I phone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Kawal, E.T., and Everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps this is a brand-specific bug?  
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have absolutely no problem making, receiving, or switching between 
>>>>> telephone calls using my Plantronics Voyager Edge Bluetooth earpiece.  I 
>>>>> am running iOS 9.2.1 on an iPhone 6 Plus.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, I have checked with a couple of people who are running the 
>>>>> Plantronics Voyager Legend models on 9.2.1 and they, too, report no 
>>>>> problems.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal 
>>>>> Gucukoglu
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 1:06 PM
>>>>> To: Macvisionaries
>>>>> Subject: Re: Headphone bug still exists on the I phone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, the but is still there.  I tried it after the latest update.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for reporting it if you have.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kawal.
>>>>> On 24 Jan 2016, at 18:30, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kawal,
>>>>> If you mean the Bluetooth connection is lost when a call is made, yeah. I 
>>>>> was not even aware it was a bug for I kept forgetting to look into it. Is 
>>>>> it still present in cersion 9.2.1? I am afraid to try it. Its time to 
>>>>> send a note to Apple and remind them. I will do that right now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it 
>>>>> were true?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/23/2016 10:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Morning All, or whatever the day may be for you all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope those of you who are in the affected areas of the US are safe with 
>>>>> the weather being what it is with the lizards etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I notice from all the IOS updates, the headphone bug which Jonathan Mosen 
>>>>> went in to details when he did his first podcast on the new IOS when it 
>>>>> came out last September or October still hasn’t been fixed.  I am very 
>>>>> surprised that Apple haven’t managed to fix it yet.  It’s frustrating 
>>>>> that I can’t make any voice calls using my new Aftershokz Bluez Sports.  
>>>>> By the way, I like the new model of headset.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
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