John, Good to hear, when testing it in the store shortly after the system came out, I had difficulty finding the f and j keys promptly. Perhaps they added more definition to the keys or else as you say you can get adjusted to the new keyboard. I heard from a few people that they could touch type faster with the new keyboard.
Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On 30 Apr 2016, at 19:37, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > To each his or her own. However, if one person doesn’t like it, that > doesn’t imply or infer it’s unusable for the blind and that any such claims > should be made to Apple. If it honestly was the case, then, certainly, such a > point should be made, but as I said, I don’t find the keyboard a problem and > I have four clients who have bought them and are happy with them since they > came out last year. Like with anything else, if you use it long enough, it > becomes second nature, and I tend to be someone who adapts to those kinds of > things anyway. > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/> > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > >> On Apr 30, 2016, at 7:33 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com >> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: >> >> I think the keyvboard of the mac book is crap, to flat and very little >> definition between keys, >> >> I found it difficult to use. >> But as I said that is me, and my thoughts. >> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of John Panarese >> Sent: Sunday, 1 May 2016 11:31 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: the new Macbook >> >> What is wrong with the keyboard. I didn’t notice anything that makes it >> unusable for the blind. I thought it was a nice keyboard. I just thought the >> Air or Pro had better specifications for what I wanted at the time. >> >> >> Take Care >> >> John D. Panarese >> Director >> Mac for the Blind >> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> >> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/> >> >> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer >> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >> >> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >> >> >> >> On Apr 30, 2016, at 7:24 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com >> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: >> >> No way, >> >> Really, we should be amaking it known that it's not a great keyboard for the >> blind / vi community or at least that is my opinion. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli >> Sent: Sunday, 1 May 2016 5:19 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: the new Macbook >> >> Ugg. I hear the new keyboard is coming to the newer Macbook Pro >> >> On Apr 29, 2016, at 8:22 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com >> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: >> >> Yeah it's a nice device, >> >> So long as you don't want to do a lot of power useage, it's a good machine. >> >> Starting at a 1.1GHz processor and that being a mobile processor it's not >> powerfull but works fine for everyday web surfing and word processing >> >> I didn't really try it for along time as I found it at least for me it had >> one major issue and that is the keyboard sucks the big one. >> >> The keys are flat and there is next to no definition between the keys like >> in the mac book air or pro however the keyboard is like that to save space >> and make a thiner / lighter machine in total >> >> As for the USB C connector, so long as you have adapters to connect things >> your fine otherwise your limited to saving to a small drive space and wifi >> connectivity >> >> And its over priced. >> >> The mac book air is a more powerfull processor, same amount of ram and HDD >> or SSD storage depending on what you buy and it is a cheaper product but to >> me a better product, unless they really change the next air I'll go on with >> that otherwise I'll go MBPro for power however I'd rather have the 11 inch >> air for size. >> >> Hope that helps.. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli >> Sent: Saturday, 30 April 2016 1:54 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: the new Macbook >> >> Hi: >> Has anyone tried the new Macbook 12 inch? If so, how does the moble >> processor handle VO? What do you think of the new style of keyboard? >> Sarai D. 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