Yes. Best wishes,
Jonathan > On 4 May 2016, at 11:38, Kevin Gibbs <kevj...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Are you using El Capitan? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 4, 2016, at 9:42 AM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com > <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> When I tested this before replying I had cursor tracking on. I believe that >> tracking is irrelevant when using the drag and drop commands that VO >> provides. These commands don't work very well however when dragging to >> objects that auto-hide or are partially obscured when the drag starts or >> stops. In those cases, you need to turn off tracking so that the mouse does >> not move the VO cursor and the VO cursor does not move the mouse cursor. >> Actually in later OS's I believe the default is that mouse and VO are >> independent of each other. >> >> Certainly when dragging signatures it is significantly more difficult >> because the list of signatures changes if the mailbox list item changes. >> >> Actually Macintosh standard controls often have two lists or tables where >> the values in the second table get modified by the selection in the first >> table. These are always difficult to drag and drop using VoiceOver when >> cursor tracking is on. >> e >> Best wishes, >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> >>> On 4 May 2016, at 10:32, Kevin Gibbs <kevj...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Jonathan, >>> >>> Thank you so much for writing back. Can you please tell me the role that >>> cursor tracking on or off plays in this process? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Kevin >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 4, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> You need to use the drag and drop functionality of VoiceOver. Go to the >>>> folder you want to move. >>>> Mark it with VO+comma >>>> Move to the folder after where you want it to go. >>>> Use vo+ less than (vo+shift+comma) >>>> >>>> This worked fine for me. >>>> If you want to actually have the folder placed inside another folder then >>>> use vo+period instead of co+lessthan. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> >>>> Jonathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 3 May 2016, at 18:00, Kevin Gibbs <kevj...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Guys, >>>>> >>>>> I’m tearing my hair out. I’m trying to reorder the mailboxes I’ve >>>>> created in the On My Mac section of Mail. I can’t seem to put them in >>>>> the order I want. Mailboxes end up being put inside other mailboxes, or, >>>>> they won’t stay in alphabetical order. It seems that the only way I can >>>>> move a mailbox is to physically touch it with my trackpad and fingers. >>>>> then, I have to use my vision to move the box and hope that it lands more >>>>> or less where I want it to. Can someone help me with a more blind >>>>> friendly way of doing this. I understand that VO Command Shift SPACE is >>>>> mouse down and mouse up. but I must not be applying or releasing this >>>>> command in the right sequence to achieve my objective. Any help would be >>>>> greatly appreciated. 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