+1 to this point, I do not like the fact the laptops aren’t user upgradable any 
more either.  I had a 2011 model that I put 32GB of memory in and a 1TB SSD and 
it’s still very useful today.  I also bought the memory and SSD from a 3rd 
party for pennies on the dollar.  This is probably the real reason the user 
upgradable parts went away.



> On May 18, 2016, at 7:00 PM, Seyoon Choi <syc20...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I currently own a mid 2014 maxed out configuration MacBook Pro retina. 
> Personally I am liking it’s fluidity and speed obviously from what I ‘ve pid 
> for, but for easy web browsing the Air should do its finest job. The only 
> concern that i have is that I had to get the large screen Mac as suppose to 
> smaller option because of specs. I could have just custom ordered one but the 
> stock order was nice and quick. Something else that I am not happy about is 
> the fact that these new macs don’t have upgradable internals unlike the older 
> models, but slimmer design and a bit lighter weight makes up for it. 
> 
>> On May 18, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I know for sure that the Late 2011 models still had the Line In and 
>> Headphone ports.  I believe that the 2012 models did as well.  After that, 
>> I'm not positive.  I'd actually need to quit being so lazy and do some 
>> research on that one.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 18, 2016, at 15:30, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
>> 
>> well...nice to find you sharing your wisdom!
>> A side question in this thread.  am I correct that what makes a pro a pro 
>> these  days is its power?  processing speed that sort of thing?
>> Oh and while I am at it, anyone remember the last mac laptop, pro or 
>> whatever, that still had line in line out and headphone jacks?  I know it 
>> may go back a bit, but for me the presence of the jacks are important.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, 18 May 2016, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> The newer MacBook Pros aren't particularly heavy either.  The older models 
>>> with the spinning drive were considerably more heavy, but these new Retina 
>>> units with SSD's are a lot nicer to cart around.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 18, 2016, at 14:58, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all of your replies folks,
>>> It is extremely hard to decide, since with the increase of ram and storage 
>>> on the air would bring the price of the air up to relatively become the 
>>> same as the pro.  I liked the air because of their slim light weight form, 
>>> however, since I do not carry my laptop that often outside my home, I am 
>>> not sure that the light weight will be a determining factor.
>>> I will have to struggle with making the decision for few days then just 
>>> make a pick.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Cris
>>> 
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>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
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>>> Subject: Re: What shall I get? Any recommendations?
>>> 
>>> This is clearly dependent on what your needs are, and the answer is 
>>> different based on who you ask.
>>> 
>>> I concur with those suggesting the Air.  The single-port MacBook has a 
>>> strong probability of near-term obsolescence.  Then again, the Air is 
>>> probably due for obsolescence by the same MacBook, so you’re buying for 
>>> specs, not style.  The upside there is that the cost is lower, but the 
>>> downside is you’ll still pay more for bumping the specs all the way up, 
>>> which I strongly suggest you do.
>>> 
>>> But, I was one of those who went from an Air to a Pro.  Especially if you 
>>> want to do lots of virtualisation, the Pro really comes into its own.  With 
>>> a quad-core processor and up to 16 GB of RAM, it really helps.  If you only 
>>> run one OS at a time, though, an Air ought to be fine.
>>> 
>>> Don’t forget the Mac Mini.  It’s a small-form-factor desktop computer.  If 
>>> you’re only buying for portability, this is an option.
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