Actually you’re both right.:)

I think it’s good to be correct because there’s so much misinformation out 
there.  After all with all the misinformation and garbage out there we end up 
with things like Trump and Hillary as our only options. hahaha (ok maybe a bit 
over stated)

On the flip side, Chris, I’ll never give anyone a hard time for being on the 
safe side when it comes to this topic.  You never know who you’re talking to so 
they may for some reason think that the same logic that applies to your USB 
cable applies to your power cord or your toaster oven to be a bit extreme so 
being careful is also a good thing.  So let’s call it the best of both worlds, 
your warning combined with mine and others over analysis.:)


> On May 18, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Shruggs.  Aaaarg!  I was trying, to make a point, ey?  Do we have to 
> scientifically be so politically correct?  The point I was trying to make 
> was, if you're in doubt about getting shocked from a defected cord, don't 
> risk it.  LOL!  Smile.
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "E.T." <ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables
> 
> 
>   Voltage does not kill, current kills.
> 
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> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 5/18/2016 1:09 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> Again, that said, I'd not chance it though. There's always that one in a
>> billion time glitch.
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>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>    *From:* Scott <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>
>>    *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>    <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>    *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:59 AM
>>    *Subject:* Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables
>> 
>>    Chris, you’re correct, that power s very low.  The voltage is maybe
>>    + or - 5V and even the power leads carrying the phone charging juice
>>    carry a small amount and the current is quite low.  No shocks there,
>>    not even with wet hands I don’t think.
>> 
>>>    On May 16, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
>>>    <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>    Ben,
>>>    I highly doubt you would a gotten shocked, as normally the voltage
>>>    transferred via USB is very very small, plus with the number of
>>>    amps, it would be very unlikely.  Now, disclaimer!  that said? I
>>>    never said not to be careful!  If you felt uneasy attempting to
>>>    use the cord, then yes.  It was probably best that you didn't.  I
>>>    never said there wouldn't be that one in a million time chance
>>>    you'd get zizzied.
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>>>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>>>    *From:*Ben J. Bloomgren <mailto:ben.j.bloomg...@gmail.com>
>>>>    *To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>    <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>    *Sent:*Sunday, May 15, 2016 11:02 PM
>>>>    *Subject:*Re: Consistently degrading lightning cables
>>>> 
>>>>    Okay, I have not seen it happen in a couple of months, but the
>>>>    cable which originally came with my old iPhone Five did degrade
>>>>    to the point at which I was scared that I'd get shocked or it'd
>>>>    mess up the phone in some way. The chord to my iPhone Six S
>>>>    hasn't seemed to do that yet, but I'm paranoid due to my previous
>>>>    experience. Chris, you may have an aberration, but Apple does
>>>>    need to rethink the Lightning chords, if they want to maintain
>>>>    their proprietary ways.
>>>> 
>>>>    Ben
>>>> 
>>>>    On 5/13/2016 16:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>>>    OK, I wonder if anyone else is having, or has had this problem.
>>>>>    Over the years, I've bought quite a few devices that use
>>>>>    lightning cables.  Anything from my old IPhone 5, 5S, 6Plus, 6S,
>>>>>    a few Apple TV 4's, etc.
>>>>>    Point is, after about 2 or 3, if I'm lucky, months roughly, it
>>>>>    seems like the end of the insolation right where the lightning
>>>>>    connector is that goes into the device, that area seems to keep
>>>>>    getting cut/torn.  Usually it's not so bad that the cable stops
>>>>>    working, but it's bad enough that it definitely has the
>>>>>    potential that at any moment, it could get worse.  I have one
>>>>>    cable now which is almost 98% sebbered all the way through both
>>>>>    the insolation and the actual wire itself.  It's pretty
>>>>>    pathetic.  It seems like most all my cables eventually are
>>>>>    getting to this point, and I swear, I'm not misusing them.  I'm
>>>>>    just plugging them in, and unplugging them as normal.
>>>>>    Apparently, I'm by far not the first person who's had this
>>>>>    issue.  If you just Google online, you'll find lots of forums
>>>>>    and blogs, etc. of people who've had the same issue quite
>>>>>    regularly.  So apparently, it must not be just me.
>>>>>    Is it just these things are really badly designed?  I'm on hold
>>>>>    right now waiting for Apple to pick up to see if maybe they can
>>>>>    replace a few of these chords, but I'm not very hopeful.  They
>>>>>    might, but I'm not counting on it.
>>>>>    I'm just wonderring if any of you guys have also found your
>>>>>    cables tearing, getting cut, or worse on a consistent basis
>>>>>    right at the tip of the cord like I am.  If so, what are you all
>>>>>    doing to get around this, so you don't have to keep buying cord
>>>>>    after cord after cord every few months.  This alone is starting
>>>>>    to make me reconsider iOS devices.  At least, ones with
>>>>>    lightning connecters.
>>>>>    Lightning's great, but the cords appear to be crap in my opinion
>>>>>    based soly on what I so far have observed. Again, that's stated
>>>>>    as an opinion, not a fact.  Keep that in mind.
>>>>>    Chris.
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