Well, there are many in the French society who would disagree with you but I don’t blaim you at all for your position if that was your life experience. Wow, I’m not sure what to say about your healthcare comments other than I’m glad I can buy what I need and nobody says no. Sounds like a ringing rebuke of socialized healthcare to me but that might be the rightwinger in me overstating the case. Honestly from some of the comments I’ve heard privately lately I’m not sure the UK has a very strong ground to stand on when it comes to the treatment of it’s blind citizens but hey, does anyone? Can we claim to be much better, I might think so but others will have valid points why not so I don’t know.
From: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Reply-To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Date: Friday, June 24, 2016 at 1:12 AM To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well Hello Scott and everyone, Well, the Leave camp has won and I shall now apply for French citizenship. France has been good to me over the years. The French health care system treats me like a valuable member of society, whereas the British health service treated me as worthless and would happily have just let me die of kidney failure because I’m blind. I’m alive and well today because 15 years ago, I had a liver and kidney transplant here in France, so part of my body is already French I suppose. As for Britain liberating itself from the influence of multinational corporations – that is certainly not the case. The Tory party is well and truly in bed with big business and now they’ll be free to walk all over the low-paid workers. Cheers, Anne On 24 Jun 2016, at 06:22, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: Don’t be so quick to buy the official version of that MP being murdered. It was a horrible thing but I’m not convinced it was entirely as sold on the news either. I think in some cases the unhinged are pushd by some with in the power structure to do what they do. There’s real indications of trickery in the mass shootings in the US being used to totally subvert our constitution, I suspect something similar there. That being said, if the French won’t have you we’d love to. Granted there’s way to much paperwork to get in to our country but if you’re ready for a 5 year slog we’d happily take you.:) What ever country you decide, they will be lucky to have you. Just don’t sell your British citizenship short but do what you must. From: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Reply-To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Date: Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 12:12 PM To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well I’m desperately hoping for the Remain vote to win. I no longer have a vote in Britain as I’ve lived in France for 33 years, but if the Leave side wins, I’ll be applying for French citizenship. The MP who was murdered was from my home area and had been headgirl at the grammar school I attended after opting out of the special education system. She was much younger than me, so I never knew her, but I felt a certain connection to her and was horrified by what happened. Cheers, Anne On 23 Jun 2016, at 17:52, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: Hi Scott and whoever is interested. I cast my vote earlier today. using a tactile Braille template. I am now just anxious about the outcome. There is enough violence and discord in the world and whatever the result if it’s for in my opinion to stay in, then I hope it brings the country together as I believe the death of a Member of Parliament which happened last week on the Streets of Britain was politically motivated as this person said when he appeared in Court to give his name, and I quote: ‘death to traitors freedom to Britain’. That was disgusting and I don’t want to live in a world where people can not say how they feel and then for a bullet or knife to come their way. The campaign here has been divisive and disgusting and poisoners and many people will vote No just to try and get rid of the Government of the day. If there is a No vote, then the country will be messed up. I just hope people will vote for the right reasons. Sorry to write this but I am a person of strong views and I would have not written if I did not see this post from Scott which encouraged me to write. Please delete if no one is interested, but do not flame me as I know how nasty some people can be on this list if the mood takes them. Thanks. Kawal. On 23 Jun 2016, at 15:45, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: Totally off topic so if you’re not interested stop here and delete. I just wanted to wish our British friends well in their big decision today. A lot of really unfortunate things have been said by our president and other leaders in the US and as a citizen I think they should have just left well enough alone and not meddle in the affairs of your country. A lot has been said about Britain moving to the back of the line and other such hysterics and I just want you to know that it’s BS and don’t be pressured by the suits in this country who don’t have the support of the people anyway. Even though our two countries had a rocky start and there was that little matter of a tea party and some revolutionary acts here and their.:) it’s totally clear to me and everyone here that we have been, we presently are and hopefully always will be the closest of friends now. I’m personally able to claim more than half of my ancestry as British and other than my own country I hold yours in highest regard. Do what’s in your heart to do, don’t let the bullies in Washington here or number ten Downing or Brussels make the decision for you. Know that on the ground, if you decide to leave, 8 out of 10 Americans support you whole heartedly and if you decide to stay then we back you there as well. It makes no difference to me or anyone who really counts (the man or woman on the street) what you do, we support you, we love you and we know you’ll do what’s right for Britain. 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