Alex, well stated. The right tool for the job and all that. Some are forced in to a platform as well because that industry has adopted it exclusively. Insurance is one that is almost exclusively windows. One may have no choice but to work in a windows environment.
As in most things there are more than one way to accomplish a given task. I think one thing that’s real important here is isn’t it great we have a choice? By we I mean the blind community. It wasn't that long ago we had only one choice or even no choice. Now there are viable options on most major platforms and all different price points. If anything, that should enable our community even more. More access for more people is a great thing no matter the platform! Jul 4, 2016, at 10:01 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: > > I certainly took no offense, and I hope no one else did either. <smile> > > The way I see it, there are bugs in everything, and quite often, what people > find problematic depends on their specific needs. For example, I need access > to Windows at work, and I have a very hard time debugging webpages. I also > find it annoying when the object explorer in Server SQL Management Studio > stops working right and I have to re-connect it. Meanwhile, I've never found > a more efficient email application than macOS' Mail app, and I similarly love > Notes and Messages. Yet, both have bugs, to be sure. Outlook also has bugs, > but someone who never needs email may not care about those just as most > people don't care that SSMS has that explorer bug. > > At the end of the day, everyone has to use the platform(s) that work best for > them, and that decision is based largely on which has the fewest bugs in the > applications the person needs. Since each workflow is different, only the > individual can make the call. I don't begrudge anyone using Windows, Linux, > Android, or anything else, even if I would never use a given platform. Find > what works for you, and that's all you can do. If you can use multiple > platforms at once, that's even better, as you can then use the best tool for > a given job. But if that's not an option, it's not an option. > > There are things I love about the Mac, and things I really don't like. But, > ultimately, it has more good things than bad for me, and it works so well > with my preferred mobile solution that it makes the most sense for me. But I > use Windows at work, as well as Google services, and I have two screen > readers on my work machine. Once, I was on my iPhone, using an app to > remotely administer a Debian server through Google Cloud Compute. How's that > for multi-platform? <smile> Yes, there are parts of Windows/NVDA I wish Apple > had, but there are parts of Apple I wish Windows had. Nothing's perfect, and > all we can do is pick what works best for us. >> On Jul 4, 2016, at 09:56, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote: >> >> Have not been using the Mac that long but much prefer it over Windows >> which is a nightmare (I have been using Windows since 95). Certainly there >> are things we don't need to have to work around in OS X. Its frustrating to >> be sure. >> >> I have not yet made a clean break from Windows, been a habit far too long >> but that time is coming. (smiles) >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> Are We Alone in the Universe? >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> >> >> On 7/4/2016 6:35 AM, Martin Brown wrote: >>> Let me assure you Alex, and the other fine folks on this list, that no >>> insult was intended. In fact, I find the vast majority of people extremely >>> helpful and highly knowledgeable about all aspects of computing, and >>> especially on the topic of Voiceover. >>> >>> Regarding NVDA, it must be remembered that the fine people behind this free >>> screen reader are dedicated to providing a way into computers for those who, >>> on the one hand can't afford the price of keeping up with the latest >>> offering from Freedom, and on the other hand there are those who simply >>> don't agree with paying for something that should be provided by Microsoft. >>> >>> I used to have a payed licence for Window-Eyes, but now get it free because >>> of the Microsoft offer. So, Alex, I do not have a problem with a free screen >>> reader providing it works well for me. >>> >>> I would love to know the Mac as well as some of the folks on this list do. >>> Sadly, I get discouraged with the recurring problems of bugs that can be so >>> time consuming. >>> >>> I have noticed that others on this list, and when I say others I mean very >>> knowledgeable others, also find that Apple seem to be less committed to >>> accessibility now than in the past. The difference between the folks behind >>> NVDA and those behind the Voiceover project is that one is driven by >>> compassion while the other is driven by profits. >>> >>> I would highly recommend NVDA to any user of Windows. Had it been around >>> when I first started to use a computer I would have had no hesitation in >>> using it. Indeed, I would have been more than happy to make a donation to >>> its upkeep. Sadly, my poor old brain just can't learn any more keystrokes. >>> JAWS, Window-Eyes and Voiceover have just about done for this tired old >>> piece of hardware running yesterday's software. >>> Respectively Yours: >>> M Brown >>> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> <Ancient_Aliens.vcf> > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex Hall > mehg...@icloud.com <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> > > > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > <https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. 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