Very good points, bump up that processor too if you want to hold on to it for a long time. Pretty good gain for only a $150 or $300 bump in price. Especially if it’s going to last you a long time. Good philosophy..
> On Jul 9, 2016, at 3:47 PM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > i just have to remind myself of two things. one, when i buy not to skimp on > ram and hard drive because I will have it longer than most people keep > theirs. and that at least I don't have to pay freedom scientific or some > other company for third party speech software. later, Max > On Jul 9, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I do realize that there is both WiFi and Lightning storage, my thoughts >> though were whether there may be something in the future that works with iOS >> for external storage. Maybe there is and I'm out of the loop, but I haven't >> noticed it. With respect to pricing, I'm only quoting Canadian pricing from >> apple.ca <http://apple.ca/> where a 13" MacBook Air with 256 GB Flash >> storage and 8 GB RAM goes for $1449 CAD and a 13" MacBook Pro with 256 GB >> storage and 8 GB RAM goes for $1799 CAD. Note that the Pro has a faster, >> more powerful processor, Retina Display, Force-Touch Trackpad and more. So, >> you are getting more computer for the extra expenditure. Each of these are >> upgradable with more RAM, more storage etc. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Jul 9, 2016, at 13:15, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com >> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote: >> >> There are already both wifi and Lightning storage devices, for the record. >> As to slots on iOS, I doubt it. Apple released the Retina MacBook last year, >> including only one port aside from the headphone jack. This suggests less >> expansion, not more, especially on their mobile products. I, too, have no >> special knowledge or anything, but I can't imagine them allowing expansion >> slots to take up space. >> >> The Air is, I believe, about $200 cheaper than the Pro. That depends heavily >> on what processor, drive, and ram configuration you choose, though. I find >> the Apple Store app on iOS to be a good way of building different Macs to >> look at their prices, though you can, of course, do that on apple.com >> <http://apple.com/> too. >>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 14:28, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Tim; I appreciate the feedback. i wonder how much cheaper the air would >>> be. Thanks, Max >>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Max, >>>> >>>> Apple seems to be focusing on the Cloud and keeping their devices slim and >>>> fairly free of, what they might consider, extraneous ports. So, I don't >>>> believe that SD slots or some such expansion will be on their radar. I'm >>>> not an insider, nor do I have any more insight than most others, it just >>>> seems to be the trend historically with Apple products. Who's to say that >>>> someone may not develop reliable, quick and portable storage solutions >>>> that will work with WiFi, Bluetooth or Lightning technology accessible >>>> from your iDevice. Regarding the MacBook Pro or Air, both will do what >>>> you're hoping, although the Air would be less expensive. >>>> >>>> Later... >>>> >>>> Tim Kilburn >>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>> >>>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 10:21, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Tim; My main concerns are video conferencing and managing my websites. >>>> So, I think it has to be mac book air or pro. I actually miss my 12 inch >>>> ibook 4 because like you say what blind person needs a big screen. I would >>>> probably go with the 13 because of the sd slot. question, do you think >>>> this means future versions of the iPhone may also offer additional >>>> storage? i know now we can move info between devices using the cloud, but >>>> having that option would be nice. thanks, max >>>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Actually, if purchasing new, you won't find a MacBook Pro with built-in >>>>> DVD drive anymore. When it comes to a decision between the Pro or the >>>>> Air, you need to look at what you want from your computer and how much >>>>> you're willing to spend. the Pros have better processors, better >>>>> displays, usually can accept more RAM and are simply meant for more >>>>> powerful work. Of course, with all this, comes a higher ticket price, >>>>> and, why does a blind user require a better display? the Air is a good >>>>> machine, meant more for the everyday user. It can still do most things >>>>> that most people would be doing, and actually do it well if you don't >>>>> take the least expensive model. The iPad Pro is a very nice machine, and >>>>> iOS is likely the way things are moving towards in the future, but it >>>>> will be a while before they become one. You can do most everything on an >>>>> iOS device excepting enterprise tasks, so that's an option as well. the >>>>> keyboard access with VO on an iDevice is there, but no where near what >>>>> can be done on a laptop or Desktop unit. >>>>> >>>>> So, if you're preferring the MacBook Pro/Air to the iPad, and you're not >>>>> a power user nor managing enterprise architecture, then the MacBook Air >>>>> will do just fine. Don't cheap out on specs though, make sure to get at >>>>> least 8 GB of RAM, at least a 500 GB SSD and upgrade your processor. >>>>> This will make sure that it lasts you a good long time and maintains its >>>>> usefulness. >>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 09:32, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think I'm still wanting a full computer and not a tablet. Maybe I'll go >>>>> all in and get a mac book and a 9 inch iPad. but assuming I am staying >>>>> with a mac book do i want a mac book pro or a mac book air? I'm thinking >>>>> pro but without the dvd cd rom. I mean I hardly ever need one, and when I >>>>> do; it would be so much more convenient to just carry a little external >>>>> drive or portable dvd player instead. what do you think? Max >>>>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 4:38 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes I've used the 12 and 9.7 inch iPad pros. >>>>>> The 12 inch is to large and chunkie for my liking. >>>>>> >>>>>> The 9.7 is a nicer size but heavier than I'd like to carry around >>>>>> >>>>>> It's got everything you need plus the app store for things you don't. >>>>>> Still no I wouldn't get one but that's a personal preference du to >>>>>> requiring both mac os and windows for working on enterprise systems >>>>>> But if all your doing is surfing the web, writing documents or sending >>>>>> and receiving emails etc then hey the iPad is a good option, I still >>>>>> think though you might want to look at the iPad air2 and a folio case >>>>>> with keyboard which will halve the cost of he iPad pro and keyboard, >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries >>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2016 1:58 PM >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> Subject: mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad pro? >>>>>> >>>>>> Was decided on a mac book air 13 inch until talking with my brother. He >>>>>> was going on and on abut the new iPad pro 13 inch. He said that with the >>>>>> blue tooth keyboard it comes with it can do just about everything you >>>>>> need. Have any of you had your hands on the new iPad pro? If you could >>>>>> only pick one would you go with a mac book pro, mac book air, or iPad >>>>>> pro? 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