Yeah scott, but paper plates get wet when you wash them.

Lol.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2016 1:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back

Cheap solution to this whole problem… Paper plates.

Paper plates are the best or really plastic laminated paper plates.:)

On Jul 8, 2016, at 8:17 AM, Andy 
<meikle.ai...@btinternet.com<mailto:meikle.ai...@btinternet.com>> wrote:

Hi Simon.

I find your generosity astonishing my friend.  Do you not think it would be 
cheeper getting a house-cleaner rather than spend all that lovely cash flying 
me over and ofcourse accomodating me in a five star hotel, from Scotland, just 
to wash your dishes.  This must be the height of lazyness!


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From: Simon Fogarty<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>
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Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 11:34 AM
Subject: RE: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back

Andy,

Could you come and clean my dishs for me when you’ve finished your’s?

From: 
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 On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Friday, 8 July 2016 7:57 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back

Hi Arnold.

I purchased my beutiful 27 inch Imac about 5 weeks ago now and guess what?    
I've learned nothing apart from a few basic commands, but guess what?  That's 
the way I like it!

I'm going to slow right down and think, rather than act and enjoy each and 
every new experience and see this learning experience as an important milestone 
in my life, rather than a very difficult task, which I suppose, it aint!


I'm in absolutely no hurry and as long as I've got my book and I'm a member of 
this list and I hold onto my windows for email for the meantime, then I'm a 
happy chappy, because, slowly but surely, I'll learn this new OS but 
importantly, I'll enjoy it!

Now I'm off to wash the evening dishes and that's something completely 
different!

Glad to hear you are going to stick with it my friend.

Very best wishes.
Andy.


----- Original Message -----
From: Katie Zodrow<mailto:kzodrow...@att.net>
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back

Hi Arnold.
That's great! I'm glad you're looking into getting a used Mac. Then you can 
continue  learning the OS some more on your days off work and you probably 
won't be as rushed trying to learn everything.
Katie
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 7, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Arnold Schmidt 
<arno...@mindspring.com<mailto:arno...@mindspring.com>> wrote:
Quite literally, my time was up.  As you will read in some other messages, I am 
checking into some used equipment.  Consider my taking the new one back the end 
of the chapter, not necessarily the end of the story.

Arnold Schmidt
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 6:50 AM
Subject: RE: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back

Hi arnld,
Just wondering why you didn’t keep it and put windows on it in bootcamp?
That would  give you vboth platforms and you can keep learnig on the apple os.
From: 
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 On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Thursday, 7 July 2016 8:37 AM
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Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back
Arnold, if you ever get another one I would like to offer you some free 
one-on-one support with assisting you with your Mac in your tough struggles. My 
information that I would like you to have been say is below in my signature. I 
had my Mac from most two years and I don't regret getting it. I will say this, 
I can probably work a few more websites now that I couldn't work with Jaws with 
my Mac or my iPho and this message is not just for Arnold this is for anybody 
who has trouble with the Mac still free to use interviews my information in my 
signature as well as you wish.
Joseph Hudson
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On Jul 6, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Arnold Schmidt 
<arno...@mindspring.com<mailto:arno...@mindspring.com>> wrote:
I wand to thank everyone for the help I have received over the past two weeks, 
concerning my Mac Mini.  However, I ended up taking it back after all 
yesterday, which was my last day to return it.
To attempt to make a long message not quite so long, I guess I just wasn't 
getting it as much as I think I should have been.  Every time I would turn it 
on, it seemed that I still was having to look up how to do things that I 
thought I had already learned, and it definitely was getting more frustrating 
than fun, being that I could very easily do those things in Windows, or on my 
iPhone.  And in the end, what was going to be the real benefit to me?  ITunes 
allegedly easier to use, and being able to install the OS myself.
Being that yesterday was going to be my last day, I started out intending to 
put in a lot of extra time with it, before the time for my paratransit trip to 
return it arrived, which I still thought I was going to cancel.  So, I decided 
to log into my bank web site, which I had not attempted yet.  I successfully 
passed the first step in the two-step verification, but then, no matter what I 
tried, I couldn't get it to read the security question it wanted answered.  No 
problem in Windows, or my iPhone, no go on this Mac mini.  I could tell  the 
location for the answer field, I could find what should have been the question 
field, it just wouldn't read anything.  I typed in the answer to one of my 
security questions, which, of course, was the wrong answer for the question it 
was asking.  I am sure the inability to get it to read the security question 
was mine, not the Mac Mini's .  So, I closed Safari, then decided to turn on 
keyboard help, just to try differing combinations of keys I had never tried 
before to see what it would say.  I was trying the function keys, and hit a key 
at the very right end of them, and it just shut off.  Nothing I did would get 
VoiceOver talking again.  I tried the three-finger triple tap on the track 
pad,then the three-finger double tap which is what it is on my iPhone,  turned 
the track pad commander off and on, turned the whole computer off and back on, 
nothing.  And this was my last day.
I wish I had had 30 days.  If I had had, I still don't think it would have gone 
back.  But I didn't want to be one of those people who never quite got it, but 
it was too late to take it back, and I had over 900 dollars invested in the 
thing.  Even though it would have put me lower in my checking account than I 
wanted to be, I should have kept the Windows 10 Lenovo I bought from Costco, 
and the Mac Mini, too, knowing one of them was going back.  I bought the Lenovo 
first, after having talked myself out of buying a Mac, again.  Sometime before 
Microsoft stops supporting Vista next spring, there will be another good deal 
come through Costco.
I always had wanted to try a Mac, I am glad I did.  But it ended up being so 
much tedium and frustration to me, as compared to what I already know, with not 
all that much seeming benefit in the end. I fully expected not to know what I 
was doing for a while, but I thought it would have begun to get easier by 
yesterday, which, I guess, it wasn't, even with the two books I have.
Arnold Schmidt
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