Beautifully stated, Kawal. Mark
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 1:23 PM To: Macvisionaries Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back Hello. Just been reading this thread with interest as I rarely post to this list due to time etc. I like the last person who said, that they would learn the Mac slowly and not hurry. If you all think of it this way. Learning something new takes time and it’s like learning a new musical instrument. Two years ago, I started learning the flute. For me that has been a demanding instrument and last year as I felt I was getting no where, I thought about giving it up. I was really depressed as that made me feel that I was a failure. However, I told myself that giving this up would be a failure as I had invested in getting a flute. So this year, I’m much better at it and am now going to work towards my Grade 3 examination. I’ve been using the Mac since 2010 and for a week, I had a dear friend who was patient. He taught me the basics and I learnt in a week the mac basics. These days I’m no expert and there are lots of things I don’t know about the Mac. However it doesn’t bother me that I’m no expert because whilst I’m a Window user at work, at home I use the Mac and slowly I pick things up. I use to get upset if I couldn’t work something but the older I get, I don’t let things bother me so much. The worst happened to me two years ago and my life was almost ruined. Nothing can hurt me now as I won’t let it and as long as I can work the Mac to get on the Internet as that is my main priority, nothing really matters. I know enough to sort out my internet needs as I live alone and have a few friends who will help me if I can’t do something. I am much better on the Macs these days. I was going to use Windows on VM and although I have an up-to-date VM, I’ve not installed windows. I like it that whilst at home, I exclusively use the Mac and at work I need to use Windows. But I’m not so good with jaws anymore but as long as I can do my day job, nothing really worries me. Kawal. On 7 Jul 2016, at 20:56, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote: Hi Arnold. I purchased my beutiful 27 inch Imac about 5 weeks ago now and guess what? I've learned nothing apart from a few basic commands, but guess what? That's the way I like it! I'm going to slow right down and think, rather than act and enjoy each and every new experience and see this learning experience as an important milestone in my life, rather than a very difficult task, which I suppose, it aint! I'm in absolutely no hurry and as long as I've got my book and I'm a member of this list and I hold onto my windows for email for the meantime, then I'm a happy chappy, because, slowly but surely, I'll learn this new OS but importantly, I'll enjoy it! Now I'm off to wash the evening dishes and that's something completely different! Glad to hear you are going to stick with it my friend. Very best wishes. Andy. ----- Original Message ----- From: Katie Zodrow To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 6:47 PM Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back Hi Arnold. That's great! I'm glad you're looking into getting a used Mac. Then you can continue learning the OS some more on your days off work and you probably won't be as rushed trying to learn everything. Katie Sent from my iPhone On Jul 7, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com> wrote: Quite literally, my time was up. As you will read in some other messages, I am checking into some used equipment. Consider my taking the new one back the end of the chapter, not necessarily the end of the story. Arnold Schmidt ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Fogarty To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 6:50 AM Subject: RE: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back Hi arnld, Just wondering why you didn’t keep it and put windows on it in bootcamp? That would give you vboth platforms and you can keep learnig on the apple os. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson Sent: Thursday, 7 July 2016 8:37 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My Time Ran Out, I Took It Back Arnold, if you ever get another one I would like to offer you some free one-on-one support with assisting you with your Mac in your tough struggles. My information that I would like you to have been say is below in my signature. I had my Mac from most two years and I don't regret getting it. I will say this, I can probably work a few more websites now that I couldn't work with Jaws with my Mac or my iPho and this message is not just for Arnold this is for anybody who has trouble with the Mac still free to use interviews my information in my signature as well as you wish. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 FaceTime/iMessage jhud7...@yahoo.com On Jul 6, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com> wrote: I wand to thank everyone for the help I have received over the past two weeks, concerning my Mac Mini. However, I ended up taking it back after all yesterday, which was my last day to return it. To attempt to make a long message not quite so long, I guess I just wasn't getting it as much as I think I should have been. Every time I would turn it on, it seemed that I still was having to look up how to do things that I thought I had already learned, and it definitely was getting more frustrating than fun, being that I could very easily do those things in Windows, or on my iPhone. And in the end, what was going to be the real benefit to me? ITunes allegedly easier to use, and being able to install the OS myself. Being that yesterday was going to be my last day, I started out intending to put in a lot of extra time with it, before the time for my paratransit trip to return it arrived, which I still thought I was going to cancel. So, I decided to log into my bank web site, which I had not attempted yet. I successfully passed the first step in the two-step verification, but then, no matter what I tried, I couldn't get it to read the security question it wanted answered. No problem in Windows, or my iPhone, no go on this Mac mini. I could tell the location for the answer field, I could find what should have been the question field, it just wouldn't read anything. I typed in the answer to one of my security questions, which, of course, was the wrong answer for the question it was asking. I am sure the inability to get it to read the security question was mine, not the Mac Mini's . So, I closed Safari, then decided to turn on keyboard help, just to try differing combinations of keys I had never tried before to see what it would say. I was trying the function keys, and hit a key at the very right end of them, and it just shut off. Nothing I did would get VoiceOver talking again. I tried the three-finger triple tap on the track pad,then the three-finger double tap which is what it is on my iPhone, turned the track pad commander off and on, turned the whole computer off and back on, nothing. And this was my last day. I wish I had had 30 days. If I had had, I still don't think it would have gone back. But I didn't want to be one of those people who never quite got it, but it was too late to take it back, and I had over 900 dollars invested in the thing. Even though it would have put me lower in my checking account than I wanted to be, I should have kept the Windows 10 Lenovo I bought from Costco, and the Mac Mini, too, knowing one of them was going back. I bought the Lenovo first, after having talked myself out of buying a Mac, again. Sometime before Microsoft stops supporting Vista next spring, there will be another good deal come through Costco. I always had wanted to try a Mac, I am glad I did. But it ended up being so much tedium and frustration to me, as compared to what I already know, with not all that much seeming benefit in the end. I fully expected not to know what I was doing for a while, but I thought it would have begun to get easier by yesterday, which, I guess, it wasn't, even with the two books I have. 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