I could only imagine the Skype to sip being a real headache. From Howtos on sites like Nerd Vittles, it looks like there would be sighted assistance needed to set one up because we couldn't get remote Orca speech to deal with the Skype client side of it all if you were to host this in the cloud. . I think it involved some shim that hooked into the now gone Skype api and routed the audio part through virtual sound devices so something like Asterisk could send and receive to it. The other option would probably be to use USB to RJ11 adapters similar to the Magicjack dongle and use the bridge to Skype for the rest, bringing the audio side in as an analog phone line. I don't know how multiple simultaneous calls would be handled, unless several Skype clients would need to run as different users on the system with separate virtual or other audio devices for each. I remember at one time hearing of a Skype connect thing just for this purpose, but they yanked it. I used to love Skype when it was simple before MS bought them, but now it's too bloated with stuff most would never use just to call or chat.

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Don’t blame you, don’t like the non standard stuff either. Not a huge FaceTime user for the same reason. Likes my protocols open.:)

I had to manage some Skype to SIP gateways and it was unpleasant.


On Jul 8, 2016, at 4:14 PM, John JD Denning <jdenning1...@gmail.com> wrote:

No Skype.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 8, 2016, at 16:04, Joseph Hudson <jhud7...@gmail.com> wrote:

Do you have Skype call? And when ever is good for you I will try to work with my schedule to make things work. Before anybody asks or you ask my services are free unless I have to come there to assist you.
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On Jul 8, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:

I wish I could take this offer up Chris but I live in the UK and work full time, 5 days a week! What a shame, it would have been ideal as I’m OK on the Mac but would love a one-to-one with someone as I need to improve and be more independent. The last time someone offered to help me with my Mac, the person made it his business to make my life rather messy and gave me a lesson to remember.

So I wish everyone luck who takes up this offer.

Kawal.
On 8 Jul 2016, at 13:02, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Guys,

I have been using a mac now for just over 10 years. I started in the days of mac OSX 10.4.1 Tiger with a Power Mac G4 Quick Silver.

I am at the point now where I could not function without my mac, end of story! There are a few things on Windows I still do, but very few. I'd say out of an 8 hour work day, I'm probably only in Windows maybe 30 minutes to an hour out of that timeframe.

So, here is what I am thinking. For those who live in the US, or have telephone calling to the states, how interested would people like Andy, or Arnald etc. be with me coordinating and teaching a 1 hour class on the basics of the mac OS from the standpoint of someone blind who has used Windows all their life? Make it very clear that I do not plan to charge for this class. I would very gladly vollenteer my time to do this for you all in a group setting. The classes would not be all lecture based. I would make them very interactive. This means, though I might have a small portion of the class devoted to lecture, 95% of the hour would be helping you all better understand Voiceover, and your new mac system. Over time, the coriculum would be:

Deciding which mac is right for you
The differences in keyboard layouts
Identifying the FN, CTRL, Option, and command keys
Discussing the Voiceover modifier keys
Turning on your mac for the very first time ever
Turning on Voiceover with no sighted help
Basic VO keyboard navigation
Basic VO trackpad navigation
Why trackpad gestures over keyboard navigation
Completing the first time setup assistant
Creating an Apple ID/ICloud ID, and why
The basics of Quick Nav
Accessing and navigating menu bars
Accessing and navigating menu extras, and what they are
Connecting to a wifi network
Configuring Finder view options to your liking
Accessing right click context menus
Navigating the dock, and what is it
Switching between opened applications
The Running applications window
Switching between opened windows within an application
The Window chooser
System Preferences, and useful configurations
The Finder, and basic navigation
Opening files/folders
Explaining concepts of volumes vs. drives
The Finder sidebar
The finder browser
Icon, list, and column views within the Finder
Changing between the three different views
Renaming files/folders
Copy/pasting files/folders
Selecting files/folders contiguously
Selecting file/folders noncontiguously
Adding items to the dock
Aliuses, what are they, and how to create them
Properly disconnecting USB drives, and external media
Closing opened windows
Quitting applications
Force quitting applications, and when to do so
An entire class hour long devoted to the Voiceover Utility
An entire class devoted to the concept of interacting
Routing the mouse pointer
Querying location of keyboard, Voiceover, and mouse focus
Getting very detailed coordinant locations of cursors
Moving and resizing windows with no sighted help
Hiding vs. minimizing
Zooming vs. maximizing
Closing vs. quitting
Setting some useful preferences for Safari
Two dedicated classes to surfing the web
One dedicated class to working with E-mail
Three dedicated classes to the basics of ITunes
The extreme basics of Quicktime, and why you'd need it
Basic word processing/text editting
A very basic introduction to Pages
A very basic introduction to Numbers
A very basic introduction to Keynote
The mac App Store
Software Update
Disk Utility
An incredibly extremely basic intro to Terminal
The notification Center
Audio/Midi Setup, and its rare uses
An intro to the stocked DVD player
An intro to Airplay
Booting into System Recovery
Imaging your drive with Super Duper
Time Machine, and its uses
Migration Assistant, and its uses
Installing, reinstalling, and clean installing OSX
Troubleshooting misbehaving login items
An intro to Activity Monitor
An intro to ICloud Drive
An Intro to Keychain Manager

The final class will be wishing everyone farewell with the mac, and answerring any questions which may have not already been covered.

Upon completion, everyone would receive an electronically e-mailed certifiquet certifying their full completion in the corse.

Along the way, some weeks will have weekly assignments which I will ask the group to complete for the next class.

If I do this for you guys, and I do it for free, then realize, I am giving you a $300 value. Normally, this corse is charged at $300, but seeing how many on this list have lately seemed to be struggling, I believe in you guys enough, and I believe in Apple, and their products enough, that I would like to offer this to you all as a free gift. It's not something I normally do, but if it will help you guys, then, I'll do it.

Let me say this though, if I do this for you all, I need to see true commitment. This means, don't return your mac within the first week of getting it. I will expect all participants to be fully engaged. This will mean completing all assignments on time, or at least to the best of their ability, staying in direct contact with me either via phone, Facetime, E-mail, or Skype if they have any questions or concerns. It will mean if I'm moving too fast, tell me! I'll not be able to make this effective for you all, if you don't come to me, and say, Christopher, I'm having a hard time, please help me. If you tell me you're not getting something, I'll work with you one on one until you do. I won't know if you don't tell me though.

I don't want this to be like the other free corses in the past I've tought where sometimes people show up, but then usually 98 percent the time, they don't.

Realize that if I do this, it's going to take a lot of my time! I'm very very willing to do it, but I need those who attend to be very very serious about this. If you really truly are struggling, and really want to learn, then, let's do it, but if you're only coming to be at a few lessons, then goof off the rest of the time, then I don't want you, frankly, in my class. It's that simple. I'll give, but you all have to be willing to openly receive.

Idealy, I'd like this class to run an hour a week, and generally, I'd like it on an average to be ongling for about 3 months. This means 12 weeks, so 12 lessons, equaling to about 12 hours all total worth of training, not including any one on one help you may need along the way. If we need to go longer, we will. This is only a starting goal. I'm very flexible.

If you all are interested, then write me off list.

clgillan...@gmail.com

If you're not in the states, and cannot call the states via phone, then let me know. If the international demand is high enough, then I have some ideas we can take to rectify that problem, but let's cross that bridge when, and if, we need to.

Again, I'm not selling this, so no need to ask for Mark's approval, I'd not think. I'm offerring this totally for free as my gift. I really wanna do this, and I really wanna see you guys love your mac, and succeed. You all can do this! I know you can! Allow me to help you!

Chris.

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