Scott,Not to play devil's advocate (why the devil..) but one very good reason for this ruling is to reduce anxiety and endless questions about new releases Discussing bugs in beta software on a mailing list like this one is counter productive especially for those of us who are not participating in a beta program. The ruling would also preclude some from stating disclaimers that he/she will not openly discuss issues in beta software.
If there is a mailing list for beta testers, that is where to take it. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 7/10/2016 8:34 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
Sorry, I’ll believe the lawyers from Morrison and Foerster before Mark and Kara.:) Public means public meaning no presumption of privacy. And I’ve read and had evaluated both agreements, the Developer version is far more restrictive and I was specifically advised against signing it so never participated in that program. I’m advised both on my own dime and through the legal department at my employer that the public beta is a different animal. But if the moderators wish to be their restrictive selves and stifle legal discussions that will benefit our community it’s their list. However, I have no such prohibition on my lists so anyone interested in an open discussion about beta software may migrate there with out fear of retribution for their comments. (public betas of software only please, the developer closed stuff needs to stay in approved forums and channels.On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:59 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote: Scott, even though it's a public beta, the NDA is still in effect. Cara and Mark both say this. Mark or Cara, if you want to take it from here, go ahead. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: Ray, public beta buddy, has nothing to do with non disclosure. Public being the key word here. Discuss away, it’s assumed you will.On Jul 9, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote: Simon, my good sir, please allow me to gently remind you that we are strictly forbidden from discussing what we are finding out in the beta testing of IOS10. This pertains both to developer beta as well as the public beta. Bear in mind that the public beta is public strictly in the sence that the public has access to it without paying a developer fee: but, open discussion of findings is strictly forbidden. Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!!!!!On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:06 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Hi List folks, Ok so today I thought I’d be crazier than usual and I updated to the IOS 10 beta release. 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