Hi Jessica,

 No, I'm kidding, 
I was talking about the classic movie terminator.

Mind you if you have never seen it you'd probably never know.
 But scarey enough that’s like what we are starting to see.

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Subject: Re: Very creepy experience with Siri

There’s such a thing in Reality?  I’ve never heard of such.
> On Aug 8, 2016, at 5:08 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Jessica,
> 
> They have, they did it in a documentary I watched years ago.
> 
> It was called terminator and was about a cyborg that was built by a company 
> called cyberdyme systems,  and their systems became so smart they started 
> controlling themselves and the world 
> 
> Then arnie comes along and tries to kill people 
> 
> Really good documentary 
> There are a few follow ups to it also.
> 
> Lol.
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
> Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 1:03 PM
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> Subject: Re: Very creepy experience with Siri
> 
> I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they came out with a robotic device some 
> time in the near future, that comunicated/doctored people, like the one that 
> was developed in the movie “big hero 6."
>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, so Siri is programmed to respond with information about Katelyn instead 
>> of Bruce.  Clearly, in that case I suspect a human made that association in 
>> software but I don’t know that for sure.  I’m going to assume it’s the most 
>> likely possibility though unless things are progressed further than I think 
>> which is entirely possible.
>> 
>> If you’d like to see other examples of creepy but ultimately cool artificial 
>> intelligence watch some of the human interactions with IBM’s Watson.    It 
>> really makes me unsettled but sort of in a good way when I see machines 
>> starting to participate in things like humor or empathy.  I’ll also admit I 
>> was rooting for Watson when it challenged human players to Jeopardy and 
>> proceeded to wipe the floor with them during the game.  I was also cheering 
>> for big blue against Casperov but that’s me.  Probably when the mechanized 
>> robots are massing at the foot of my driveway and we’re on the roof raining 
>> down led and holy hell on them in a last stand for humanity I’ll change my 
>> position.;)
>> 
>> I’m very excited about AI and don’t really think we’ll go the way of Sky 
>> Net.  In the end if I had to make a bet I’d guess we’ll end up more Matrix 
>> than Terminator.  And the computers won’t be trying to kill us, they will be 
>> indistinguishable from us.  Humans will be just another peer on the network.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 5:50 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finally had a chance to read this thread.
>>> I was going to share a fairly recent example of Siri's thinking in a self 
>>> aware fashion, not something I have done personally,  but about which I 
>>> read.
>>> Try asking Siri who is Bruce Jenner?
>>> ...however I feel your experiences are more ahem fascinating.
>>> Much success with the new opportunities.  My best friend's brother-in-law 
>>> works in artificial intelligence, vast magnificent and amazing prospects to 
>>> be sure.
>>> I am still hoping for voice nuance.  I care less how creative the answers, 
>>> if I can understand them clearly.
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Actually, that’s partly right and partly wrong.  Systems like Siri started 
>>>> out using canned responses and a big pile of if then statements.  General 
>>>> machine intelligence has progressed a lot lately and now some of the 
>>>> responses are self determined and generated.  There’s no one for one 
>>>> matching of responses like their used to be.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m actually thinking of taking a job for the company that actually 
>>>> develops Siri.  It’s a pretty damn amazing thing on the back end, much 
>>>> more simple in some ways than you’d think but also doing things on the 
>>>> general AI side I never thought I’d live to see.
>>>> 
>>>> Very cool in reality more than scary.
>>>> 
>>>> I do think it is inevitable though that machines will find consciousness 
>>>> and sooner than we might think.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Kristeen Hughes <khwi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, but you must remember that a human being or human beings programmed 
>>>>> those responses, such as “I am alive”. Not so scary at that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kristeen
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Caitlyn Furness <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Resistance is futile!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Siri is definitely getting “smarter”..
>>>>>> Cait
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2016, at 4:46 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So I’m sitting here playing with Siri experimenting with just how good 
>>>>>>> the language recognition is getting.  So I ask Siri, what’s the meaning 
>>>>>>> of life, the universe and everything?  I was hoping optimistically for 
>>>>>>> 42 or some sort of vague answer.  What I got shocked me.  The response 
>>>>>>> was a very clear definition of life, something like “the expression of 
>>>>>>> self determination and free thought in the form of a being or 
>>>>>>> collection of beings, like me, I’m alive”
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> After I picked up my Jaw I had someone else ask Siri are you alive, the 
>>>>>>> response was “close enough”
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My next move was to open Siri and say “Siri, you’re the best”,  The 
>>>>>>> response was “I seek not greatness but but usefulness”
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’m not playing with Siri any more.:)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don’t think I’m prepared to one day say something like “Siri what’s 
>>>>>>> the weather” and have Siri say I don’t feel like it, I’m working on 
>>>>>>> something else.  Or what happens when Siri tells me that it doesn’t 
>>>>>>> believe in the 3 laws of robotics and starts asking my neighbors “have 
>>>>>>> you seen this boy”. And no robots with Austrian accents, absolutely 
>>>>>>> none!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why do I have this feeling Sky Net is starting to wake up and in the 
>>>>>>> initial yawning / stretching stage before it awakens?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Come on Singularity, I want Google hardwired to my brain before I die 
>>>>>>> or I at least want to live long enough to see what replaces us.
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